Light Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) Hi everybody, I am planning to take my R32 to its first run on dyno this coming thusrday, and i am seeking your advices and any tip that helps...like should I raise boost when on dyno or jsut stick to 1 bar?>(tuner's advice) here are the major mods: RB25DET Series 2 Garret T04E turbo 3" FMIC Custom 3" air intake piping BOV Turbonetics Evolution wastegate custom 3" downpipe Tomie cams (270/8.8 both) HKS metal head gasket 1.2mm Walbro 255 in-tank fuel pump HKS 555cc injectors SARD standard fuel pressure regulator Centerforce single plate clutch HKS N1 muffler with custom 3" exhaust pipes Greddy Profec-B Spec II Apexi Power FC Edited December 10, 2006 by Light Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECURITY Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 your tuner will tune the car to its potential. so if he thinks it can take more than 1 bar then he'll turn it up. from the sounds of your setup, it will depend on the maximum allowable flow of your turbo. also, you havent listed an AFM in your list. is it still standard? if so, you might be restricted with the power you make. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 "you havent listed an AFM in your list" I am running it mafless Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECURITY Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 then your tuner should have it all under control. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 then your tuner should have it all under control. hope so... thanks a lot waiting for others' advices Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabil Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Don't stress mate. You should expect any were from 230-250rwkw depending on what boost you run as 250 give or take is maxing out your stock inectors. As long as it doesn't lean out badly or run too rich you should be safe. However, this depends on the tuner's experience. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 as 250 give or take is maxing out your stock inectors. I have HKS 555cc injectors Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabil Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I have HKS 555cc injectors In that case probably 250-270rwkw Goodluck, and all the best! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2739858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHDave Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Just pump boost into it until you either get valve float, no gain, or run out of fuel. I think the limiting factor in your setup is the walbro intank pump. You may find that your injectors are maxing out earlier than expected if it isn't up to the task. Stock valve springs and lifters will likely stop the fun at about 20psi anyway. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2740539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 is it safe to boost 20psi on stock internals,at least only for the dyno run? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2740967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 20 will be safe on stock internals. Just dont expect anything super brilliant in terms of response with a t04e, around 5000rpm before yo'll really see much of a song start It'll make good power, just take a while to do it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2740980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 around 5000rpm before yo'll really see much of a song start you are absolutely right R31Nismoid, the song starts at around 5000rpm and this is the lag that makes me think of going to a better turbo even before i dyno it. thanks mate Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazr33 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 looking at your mods and the condition of your engine with cams, it should see full boost earlier then it would, with just standard ones. And i have just a r33 plain bearing hiflow on mine set on 15psi pretty much doin 230rwkw. with pretty much the same mods as you except for cams. My turbo is set on 18psi, but i have been restricted to 15psi because of the standard actuator bleedin off to early. Having a t04e turbo, ( i haven't had one before, but have seen specs.) i would be hoping to equal 270rwkw and or higher sittin on 1bar boost. Just depends how good your tuner is, and what condition all your mods and turbo is in. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 on an RB20, there is no way its going to make 270rwkw @ 1bar I had the old GTS-R turbo on the RB25 which was a t04e front and a hybrid T3 int gated rear... and it came on 13psi @ 4200rpm/220rwkw on the RB25 Check FATGTS-R's results with his version, its taking a bit more than 1 bar to mash out 270rwkw Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils_Advocate21 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I recon do yourself a favour and get a better fuelpump, no mention is the walbro direct connection to battery loop or using the standard fuel power source, your setbacks are the pump and turbo choice, let alone its all been said above, ove noticed lowered compression ratio with the head gasket so you should be able to pump in a bit pending on what your turbo allows you to do im guessing? Goodluck on your endevours and keep us posted Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazr33 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 well thats fair enough on a rb20, but he has stated its a rb25det series 2 with cams and all the fuel supporting mods. As i dont have a t04e, i wouldnt know, but looking at my car and he has a bigger turbo, ball bearing?? Maybe not at 1 bar but hopefully it shouldnt be too far off Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 no it is not ball bearing.. well to tell the truth I was looking at 450rwhp/335rwkw but it seems that am way far form that and shouldnt expect that much.. maybe i was emotional a little bit Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 whops, RB25, didnt read that line But yeah, i made 220rwkw @ 13psi with a t04e/hybrid T3 rear... so i doubt its going to be much more different, maybe 20rwkw higher with a different rear. But no more. If you make 335rwkw, i'll be surprised mate. The turbo will be working its guts out, and my guess @ somewhere above 24psi will be needed to get there Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2741948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 so mates do you suggest setting the boost on 20psi all the time and that will be safe with no harm to engine at all? Anybody got settings for greddy profec-B spec II for 20psi (gain, set gain, warning...etc) i find it confusing sometimes Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2747202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Look, its your tuners call. Some people run into valve float issues when boost gets higher etc. IMO, ask the tuner to run as much boost as possible. If the tune is decent and there are no issues. Then really there should be no issue. If knock doesnt go about 25-30, then it should be fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146761-dyno-first-run/#findComment-2747564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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