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its exactly the same as any import, you get about 10% of the value of your mods back.

always keep the stock parts, put them back on and sell the bits to people on here.

99% of buyers won't tell the difference between always stock and de-modified....how sure are we all that there were no mods in jp?

If I bought a car expecting it to have always been stock and it was simply demodified I would not be happy when I found out and would go to court over it.

IF I was told that the car was demodified then I'd still probably get it if it was a good deal, but if you lie about something that simple I have no idea what else you are lying about.

Are you saying that you would not want such a $$ value amount of mods (BASIC mods that are generally the first everyone does) for such a small outlay??? Especially if you were planning to mod it urself anyway? hmmm... me no comprende the logic there

Id rather the car be modded and kept modded, or NEVER modded. Being that most cars ive seen put back to stock for a sale, the owner has done a quick careless job.

At the end of the day, it not so much a "how should i sell it" question, it really depends on what the owner wants, there are a few different target markets (modded cars, non-modded, light mods etc) you just have to decide which one you will aim the car at and advertise accordingly.

The two first mods people do...

Exhaust and Pod.

I don't want a pod, and chances are they have an exhaust system of pretty crap quality and I'll rip it off and get a new one put on. If they can prove it was a decent quality system then I won't care... I also want the car to be as quiet as possible but still decent airflow. Most people from what I've seen just want it damn loud.

Same goes for sound systems. I'd rather nothing in there - saves me the trouble ripping the crap quality stuff out.

EDIT: I also know little about engines so this will be a learning curve for me so its not only that its modded or not it is also going to be teaching me.

Edited by Midol
The two first mods people do...

Exhaust and Pod.

I don't want a pod, and chances are they have an exhaust system of pretty crap quality and I'll rip it off and get a new one put on. If they can prove it was a decent quality system then I won't care... I also want the car to be as quiet as possible but still decent airflow. Most people from what I've seen just want it damn loud.

Same goes for sound systems. I'd rather nothing in there - saves me the trouble ripping the crap quality stuff out.

EDIT: I also know little about engines so this will be a learning curve for me so its not only that its modded or not it is also going to be teaching me.

If you cant take a pod off and put the normal filter box back on a 25det in 10min, u shouldnt be near an import! lol

A good quality system is one that flows well, but i still quiet enough. this is ur brand name systems. Most of us who bought stageas didnt go straight and throw an exhaust or pod on, knowing that pods are not legal unless properly shielded. And ull find that 9/10 of us here that have an exhaust system, have stainless dumps, highflow cats and a brand name or quality otherwise exhaust.

Most people who have the $$ and sense to buy a stagea, have the $$ and sense to mod one properly. Alex is one example. For other examples, see the thread on what we've done to our stageas so far.

:-)

How many stagea/skyline owners visit this site? This site represents a minority of owners. I have no doubts that the guys on this site mod theirs properly, it is the ones who just want a fulli sick sounding car that I worry about. I wasn't referring to air filters as a learning curve :/ Air filters and exhausts are things I will buy with but would prefer not to.

For example, redbook has roughly 20 stageas for sale right now and I'd say 5-6 of them MIGHT be members of SAU and thats pushing it.

Sort of like the falcon I got now - had an aftermarket exhaust on it. Last night it snapped in the middle and the car now sounds like shit and I can't afford to fix it right now. Because of some toss pots bad choice in exhaust system I have to fork out money to replace it.

This site represents a minority of owners.

Id say we represent a PERCENTAGE of owners, not a minority. If out of 10 ppl, 2 people have modified their car in a certain way, is generally safe to say out of 100 ppl, 20 have done so also. Called statistics. Not alwys correct, but they are 90% of the time (lol at my statistic).

There arent many ways u can stuff up an air filter install, so providing the car comes with the complete factory airbox thrown in, id see it as a plus. As long as it doesnt say monza or autotechnica etc... You can generally tell when a private seller is a moron, and alex doesnt strike me as that way. He may have made some odd decisions about how he took a particular corner, but as far as modifications go he is pretty on the ball, so id happily purchase his modified car off him.

I guess there are a lot more factors than just modded or not, depends on the mods and the quality. In this case, as a buyer i think most would appreciate leaving them on the car for a measely few grand. xo

Minority

# a group of people who differ racially or politically from a larger group of which it is a part

# being or relating to the smaller in number of two parts; "when the vote was taken they were in the minority"; "he held a minority position"

# any age prior to the legal age

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Refer to the 2nd point, we are the smaller of a number of two parts - of owners. This site represents a minority of owners.

I don't know who Alex is so I have nooooooooo idea what car you are talking about, lol.

But also to do with buying it depends on how much $$$ in funds I have at the time. If the car has been modified tastefully and with quality parts then I am more likely to get it, but when I was looking at skylines I found the majority had been modified with below average quality mods and I'd rather have stock.

but when I was looking at skylines I found the majority had been modified with below average quality mods and I'd rather have stock.

Yes, and ill reply by saying that this is a stagea forum, and i dont think there is a poor quality, cheap mod between all the cars of those people who regularly post here. We pride ourselves on being the exception to the "dumbass young slyine driver" mentality that is out there.

PM me if u want to continue this discussion, or get out of alexs stagea thread.

CY?? if u could delete the last few posts here thatd be sweet!!

LOL, whats the shit fight starting over.

I am not particularly looking at selling my car, just want to understand the mindset behind people that are buying cars, and stageas in particular.

The reason I started this thread is because I see a lot of people selling their stageas, with heaps up on carsales and at dealers (something like 20-30 for sale, with only 350 in the country is a big % for sale) and thought people might need some advice.

So the points we have found so far:

- As long as its done properly the car being modded should be OK

- Alternative is not a half modded car, but a stock stock car

- Mods done in a clean and tidy manor

I wasn't fighting :thumbsup: I was just discussing my reasons for wanting a fairly stock stagea and me and Rob just misunderstood each other mostly because I didn't explain myself properly in the early posts.

I havn't been into stageas that long so I am still sussing out who owns them and what kind of people are generally attracted to them and I am finding out slowly that the majority of stagea owners are family people so fairly responsible and well thought out mods and such :laugh:

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