Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Sooo... whos custom Xtreme Kevlar clutch did I score from ACS on Friday because the person they made it for is defected?

Apparently he's on SAU?

That would be Antony. His origional xtreme clutch didn't hold up like it was supposed to. It was jamming on (welding) its self after mild 4000rpm launches. Quite random also; driven easy for a couple of days, give it a launch and it would jam on and not let go. :S

The welding together is an understatement. Yes sure it received the occasional clutch dump at 4000rpm but nothing too extreme. :S

That would be Antony. His origional xtreme clutch didn't hold up like it was supposed to. It was jamming on (welding) its self after mild 4000rpm launches. Quite random also; driven easy for a couple of days, give it a launch and it would jam on and not let go. :S

The welding together is an understatement. Yes sure it received the occasional clutch dump at 4000rpm but nothing too extreme. :S

Oh OK, yeah the ACS guy told me that they were welding together after being driven hard, and not cooling down properly, like launching down your own street and turning the car off as soon as it sat in the driveway.

Not saying Antony was doing that.

But the new clutch is awesome. So happy with it now, will see how it holds up to launches after it has been worn in.

lol, that was the plan.

but the Z is sooooooooooo nice to drive.

bah, its a tough decision.

its so smooth, the shift is nice and quick, the brakes are incredible, the steering response is something else entirely...

and its a new car, 5 years of warranty, its only done 7,000 kays, doesnt have the bumps, squeaks and rattles and inevitable engine rebuild coming up that a nearly 20 year old GTR would have...

Yeah I can understand that...but GTR is awesome to own :P

But then again I love the Z aswell ...what colour was it?

Landcruiser or Territory Turbo here...

Keep the little 32 as a fun track car.

Territory's are awesome!!!Have heard nothing but good storys about them and not badly priced either

Hi5!!! to keeping R32 as track car :)

to my knowledge they dont need wearing in but thats ceramic how much was it for a GTR style clutch i just paid $490 for a Xtreme HD 850KG pressure plate

I mean flatten any unevenness on the Kevlar pads. Mines a 6 puck single plate cushioned chromoly with Kevlar pads, 1600kg pressure plate and matching chromoly flywheel, installed about three times what you paid.

Who sold the clutch to you? was It Brad? he's a good mate of mine and has been working threre for a solid 9 years or so! He knows his stuff, you can ask him anything car realted and he could prob get it in or know something about it! His old man even builds engines at home, has built many of Brads race car engines obviously!

Who sold the clutch to you? was It Brad? he's a good mate of mine and has been working threre for a solid 9 years or so! He knows his stuff, you can ask him anything car realted and he could prob get it in or know something about it! His old man even builds engines at home, has built many of Brads race car engines obviously!

I didn't actually get it, my mechanic mate bought it and installed it for me.

Didn't get the name of the guy I spoke to when I was in there this arvo, he just wanted to drive the car to see what it was like, being the first Skyline they have put this kind of clutch into. He knew his stuff.

Oh OK, yeah the ACS guy told me that they were welding together after being driven hard, and not cooling down properly, like launching down your own street and turning the car off as soon as it sat in the driveway.

Not saying Antony was doing that.

But the new clutch is awesome. So happy with it now, will see how it holds up to launches after it has been worn in.

Yep definitely not.. Driving around normally, give it a launch and it would get stuck on.. Nothing to do with getting too hot and not cooling it down properly. It never occured when turning the car off, only ever during a drive. Then it would be fine for the rest of the night. Quite random.

After seeing Antony's I'm of the opinion that ceramic clutches + 4wd are just not a good combination. Its not like he was even giving it massive gtr style clutch dumps as the 3ltr doesn't need as many rev's.

As you know high rev's + clutch dumps is worse for the clutch/driveline than low rev's and clutch dump. The motors spinning at 7000rpm then instantly try's to accelerate the car to that road speed equiv.. Drop it at a lower rpm and the strain is no where near as much.

I mean flatten any unevenness on the Kevlar pads. Mines a 6 puck single plate cushioned chromoly with Kevlar pads, 1600kg pressure plate and matching chromoly flywheel, installed about three times what you paid.

that was just the cost of the clutch i actually paid $950 clutch and install remember baby GTR here ;)

Yep definitely not.. Driving around normally, give it a launch and it would get stuck on.. Nothing to do with getting too hot and not cooling it down properly. It never occured when turning the car off, only ever during a drive. Then it would be fine for the rest of the night. Quite random.

After seeing Antony's I'm of the opinion that ceramic clutches + 4wd are just not a good combination. Its not like he was even giving it massive gtr style clutch dumps as the 3ltr doesn't need as many rev's.

As you know high rev's + clutch dumps is worse for the clutch/driveline than low rev's and clutch dump. The motors spinning at 7000rpm then instantly try's to accelerate the car to that road speed equiv.. Drop it at a lower rpm and the strain is no where near as much.

7000 RPM launch is just silly and is not really needed

Forgive me if I'm wrong... I'm only new around here but...

Isnt this thread about non-car related stuff :D

Or is non-car related chit chat impossible? :O

Welcome!! :D

It can be both..:( Just join in I do all the time :laughing-smiley-014:

well it's mostly for stupid crap,

but welcome to the forums and seeing as your name is Joanna i call pics or ban!

LOL Pics or ban!

Yep definitely not.. Driving around normally, give it a launch and it would get stuck on.. Nothing to do with getting too hot and not cooling it down properly. It never occured when turning the car off, only ever during a drive. Then it would be fine for the rest of the night. Quite random.

After seeing Antony's I'm of the opinion that ceramic clutches + 4wd are just not a good combination. Its not like he was even giving it massive gtr style clutch dumps as the 3ltr doesn't need as many rev's.

As you know high rev's + clutch dumps is worse for the clutch/driveline than low rev's and clutch dump. The motors spinning at 7000rpm then instantly try's to accelerate the car to that road speed equiv.. Drop it at a lower rpm and the strain is no where near as much.

Oh that is strange. Yes perhaps ceramic + 4wd aren't suited.

The ACS guy said they have been getting the same problems with hi-po WRXs, so they fitted Kevlars in them and they have been good for going on 8 months now... Now they're trying Skylines. Seems promising.

Forgive me if I'm wrong... I'm only new around here but...

Isnt this thread about non-car related stuff :)

Or is non-car related chit chat impossible? :worship:

Sorry! Didn't think my little clutch story deserved its own thread.

Welcome and chat away :)

Edited by slimjim
Oh that is strange. Yes perhaps ceramic + 4wd aren't suited.

The ACS guy said they have been getting the same problems with hi-po WRXs, so they fitted Kevlars in them and they have been good for going on 8 months now... Now they're trying Skylines. Seems promising.

Sorry! Didn't think my little clutch story deserved its own thread.

Welcome and chat away :)

wow cant believe the wasteland is going off

Usually doesnt move for days :)

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • They are what I will be installing. 640s for me.
    • Hmm... From my experience you get about 0.25° camber change per mm of RUCA length change. So, to correct from -2.5 up to less than -1° (or, more than -1° if you look at the world as a mathematician does) then you'd be making 6-8mm of length change on the RUCA. From a stock length of 308mm, that's 2-2.5% difference in RUCA length. My RUCAs are currently very close to stock length - certainly only 2-3mm different from stock. I had to adjust my tension arms by 6mm to minimise the bump steer. That's 6mm out of 210, which is 2.8%. That's a 2.8% change on those, compared to a <1% change on the RUCAs. So the stock geometry already has worse bump steer than is possible - you can improve it even if you don't change the RUCA length. If you lengthen the RUCAs at all, then you will definitely be adding bump steer. Again, with my car, I recently had an unpleasant amount of bump steer, stemming from a number of things that happened one after another without me having an opportunity to correct for them. I only had to change the tension arm lengths by 1mm to minimise the resulting bump steer. (Granted, I also had to dial out a lot of extra toe-in in the rear, and excessive rear toe-in will make bump steer behaviour worse). Relatively tiny little adjustments having been made - the car is now completely different. Was horrifying how much it wanted to steer from the rear on any significant single wheel bump/dip. And it was even bad on expansion joints on long sweepers on freeway entry/exits, which are notionally hitting both rear wheels at the same time. My point is, the crappy Nissan multilink is quite sensitive to these things (unlike the very nice Toyota suspension!). And I think 99.75% of Skyline owners are blissfully ignorant of what they are driving around on. Sadly, it is a non-trivial exercise to set up to measure and correct bump steer. I am happy to show my rig, which involves nasty chunks of wood bolted to the hub, mirrors, lasers, graph paper targets and other horrors. Just in case anyone wants to see how it is done. I'll just have to set it up to take the photos.
    • What do you have in that bad boy ? Ill go with the 725cc since I'll be going with Nistune ( would definitely like more engine protection but Haltech is too far out of reach at the moment... plus, Ill probably have a pretty safe tune as its a daily, not gonna be chasing peak power 24/7 ahahah ). Are Xspurt a safe choice?  Pete's great. He didnt mention anything about traction arm length so I reckon it may be good. When I get some new wheels/tire later down the road I'll ask him about it and get his opinion on em. I heard from Gary that you've got the bilsteins too, are you running the sway bars too? and what other suspension goodies do you have installed or would recommend?
    • In true Gregging style...  
×
×
  • Create New...