Ems 8860 & Stinger 4 (ecu) For R33 Gtst

[QRI05E]

Hey guys, i know the ECU debate has been discussed over and over and an ECU will only be as good as the tuner, however i have not found any info on the EMS 8860 in regards to the R33 RB25DET.

Here are my options with some prices that my tuner has advised (order of preference)

Haltech E11v2 - $2800 (supplied, fitted & tuned)

EMS 8860 - $2200 (supplied, fitted & tuned)

EMS Stinger 4 - $1800 (supplied, fitted & tuned)

Apexi PFC - $1700 + $350 Z32 AFM = $2050 (supplied, fitted & tuned)

Any info or comments will be appreciated

Regards,

Sarkis

Edited January 1, 2007 by QRI05E

[sinistaGTR]

um....you can get pfc with hand controller for like 1000 and a z32 for like $200...... fitting takes 5mins and tuning should be around $400

[QRI05E]

Can you find me a new PFC with h/c for $1000? and Z32 for $200?

the quote i got:

PFC: $1200 (new)

Tune: $500

AFM: $350 (new)

One workshop quoted me $1000 but ex h/c

If you can please let me know and ill buy it today...

Any feedback on the EMS? they seem to be good

Cheers

Edited December 30, 2006 by QRI05E

[N I B]

www.wolfems.com.au

[32vspecII]

http://www.nengun.com/

can get you cheap pfc

500 for tune is not bad

Edited December 30, 2006 by arkon

[QRI05E]

Nengun dont sell the PFC for the R33 GTSt anymore... they have been discontinued

The Wolf V500 retails for $1,895.00 excluding harnes and tune

Wouldn't the Haltech be a better choice at that price?

[sinistaGTR]

ok sorry those prices i qouted were second hand here. theres nothing at all wrong with second hand power fcs and same with the z32 afm. but with the afm check ebay you can get new ones on there pretty cheap i think.

[QRI05E]

Thanks for that Dan, however if i go for Haltech the AFM wont be needed... However if any ofyou guys know someone with a PFC for R33 GTST in Syd plz PM me...

Cheers

[sinistaGTR]

no worries mate lol, let us know what you end u and go with anyway.

[QRI05E]

Will do... ill post up the total results inc Dyno sheet and will list all mods

Have a happy & safe New Year!

Regards,

Sarkis

[Sammie]

hey ther eive just recently orderd a ems stinger, along with a turbo and other parts should be getting fitted and tuned shortly il post results, the tuner highly recomends them to

[QRI05E]

That would be great Sammie... keep us posted!

Cheers

Edited December 31, 2006 by QRI05E

[paulr33]

buy a 26 PFC and spend $100 working out how to make VCT work

and youll get working air temp and twin afm support

[QRI05E]

Yea Paul but thats too much stuffing around for me... i'd prefer to get the whole lot installed and tuned professionally... $1800 for an EMS stinger fully fitted and tuned sounds like the way to go...

Cheers

[paulr33]

i know what i would do if it was my money

how many people can tune the EMS?

what features does it have?

map?

afm?

closed loop feedback?

what is the base map like?

does it have any form of hand control / user input/output device or is it software only?

is it a sequential ignition driver or batch fire?

wire in or plug n play?

[QRI05E]

Hey Paul, read the EMS Spec Sheet

http://www.enginemanagementsystem.com/ecuspecs.htm

and then tell me what you think...

Cheers

[psybic]

I think that is cheap for supplied fitted and tuned. EMS are about the only computers I have heard more bad stories than good about tho.

Also, if you are going the Stinger option, its not really the best way to go, as it only has 4 injector drivers. I assume they will set it up the same way they setup Microtech LT8's for 6cyls.

It can be done, but its not the ECU meant for that application.

If you are comparing those prices, a microtech LT8 installed and tuned would be even cheaper.

Either way, I'd go for an ECU that is meant to run 6cyls.

[paulr33]

im with psybic sorry, 4 channel ignition driver sucks

[QRI05E]

What about the EMS 8860? it has 8 ignition drivers.... but for $2200... would rather spend bit more and get the Haltech... Buy if i can find a good buy for a PFC for GTST i would grab it...

Edited January 1, 2007 by QRI05E

[paulr33]

u want to spend even more than 2k? geebus, u got money to burn in your pockets? contact some of the 2nd traders on this forum to see if they can source you an rb25 pfc, they are usually on yahoo auctions