Moving To Adelaide

[Madaz]

I know m8, i watch/watched all the Steve Irwin tv programs...

eew cant we strike that last comment from the record

North Eastern suburbs are good also right from Tee Tree Gully (30min drive from town) to highbury (25min.) Dernancourt (20min.) right along lower north east road St Bernards road Port Rush and all artilery roads ajoining

we all have different preferances on where to live based on where we grew up take me i love Nth. east lived banksia park most of my life know the surroundings so i get a little lost in Cubes neck of the woods

most of adelaide in only a max. of 30-35 mins from the city

GOOOOOO Adelaide

dont forget where the only state with hindley street and South Central Krusty

[Bl4cK32]

guys where supposed to convince him why to come to adelaide...

not tell him its the old fogies genital piercing / freaks of australia

Did anyone mention we hold the driest state in the driest continent in the world, and we are the serial murder capitol of Australia....lmao.

Welcome to SA

[Cubes]

lmao Madaz..

Krusty.. I haven't seen him walking around for years.

[Madaz]

Bl4cK32 - these are things we love about SA

[markyboy.1967]

Dont worry you guys it takes aloot to put me off but keep taking about big hairy arsed guys and peircings and im sure i could consider another country...

[Nightcrawler]

ok, enough talking about snakes - I grew up in Ridgehaven - 17km North-East of the city and have never seen a snake there. Lots of spiders, but they mostly stay outside.

I am a contract property valuer and do work for banks, namely mortgage security valuations, so hopefully I can help you somewhat.

Now, like most cities in the world, you can draw concentric circles from the centre of Adelaide outwards, and generally speaking the prices decrease the further you move away from the city centre.

The top suburbs of Adelaide (in no particular order) are:

Adelaide city (2 bedroom apartment from $250k - new 2 bedroom apartment from $300k-$600k - new 3 bedroom apartment from $400k-$1,000,000, old row cottage from $250k on a small block of land)

3-6km south of the GPO (2-5 minute drive) - Unley, Unley Park, Parkside, Goodwood, Millswood, Malvern, Hyde Park, Fullarton, Hawthorn, Kingswood, Netherby, Mitcham, Glenside, Glenunga, Linden Park, Hazelwood Park, St Georges, Myrtle Bank, Glen Osmond (hillside), Beaumont (some hillside), Burnside (some hillside) - basic 3 bedroom home on a small block 400sqm $300k (basic) - $500k (character home) - larger home on larger land 700sqm-1,000sqm $400k - $1,5000,000

3 - 8km East of the GPO (2-7 minute drive) - Norwood, Rose Park, Dulwich, Toorak Gardens, Beulah Park, Trinity Gardens, Maylands, Stepney, Trinity Gardens, Beulah Park, Kensington, Kensington Park, Kensington Gardens, Leabrook, Erindale, Firle, Rosslyn Park, Tranmere, Magill, Hectorville, Rostrevor, Wattle Park, Auldana (hillside), Skye (hillside) - basic 3 bedroom home on a small block 400sqm $250k (basic) - $500k (character home) - larger home on larger land 700sqm-1,000sqm $350k - $900k

2-6km North/North-East of the GPO (2-6 minute drive) - St Peters, Joslin, Payneham, Payneham South, Glynde, Vale Park, Walkerville, Gilberton, Medindie, Collinswood, Nailsworth, Prospect (has good and bad areas), Broadview, Manningham, Thorngate, Fitzroy, Royston Park, Marden - basic 3 bedroom home on a small block 400sqm $300k - $500k - larger character home on larger block $400k - $1,500,000

Now, this is obviously a bit subjective, but these are the main areas I work (and know well) and are widely consdered some of the better suburbs in Adelaide. Of course beach people will argue that Glenelg, Henley Beach, Semaphore and all the other beach suburbs rate a mention, but I prefer my car not to rust and I prefer not to need to paint my house every single year due to salt damage. Each to their own.

Also of note (but not so close to Uni but with excellent public transport) are :

Felixstow, Campbelltown, Greenacres, Hillcrest, Windosr Gardens, Northgate (new suburb where I live - as new 3 bedroom house on small 375sqm block $300k-$400k, large 4 bedroom house on 600sqm block $420k - $650k), Paradise, Newton, Athelstone, Enfield, Clearview, Blair Athol (has good and bad areas), Oakden (1990s built suburb prices from $275k - $600k), Dernancourt, Highbury, Valley View, Para Vista, Walkley Heights (new suburb house from $300k - $600k), Ingle Farm, Modbury, Hope Valley, St Agnes, Ridgehaven, Tea Tree Gully, Redwood Park, Fairview Park, Modbury North, Modbury Heights, Wynn Vale (1980s/1990s suburb $250k - $600k), Surrey Downs, Fairview Park, Mawson Lakes (new suburb $300k - $700k), Banksia Park, Pooraka - in all of these suburbs you get a pretty good house for $250k and a very nice one for $350k-$400k (apart from the more expensive newer areas mentioned). All of these suburbs are within a 30 minute drive of the city centre and all have excellent access to public transport if needed.

So I apologise if I have missed out suburbs or hurt anyone's feelings, but these would be my pick of places to live.

We picked to build in Northgate as it is 7km NE of the city - so is a 10 minute drive non-peak hour, 15 minute peak hour. It is less than 10 minutes from major shopping hubs of Tea Tree Plaza, Ingle Farm, Arndale and Sefton Plaza. It is less than 10 minutes from the hills for a nice drive. It is less than an hour to the Barossa Valley for some of the best wine in the word. The crime rate is extremely low - in fact there have been very few crimes ever in Northgate. It is a 25 minute drive to Semaphore beach. There are many public parks, lakes and walking trails. Etc etc.

Different people have different wants, but I always say go as close to the city as you can possibly afford, unless you have some special need to live near the beach or in the hills, or would prefer a large parcel of land.

Avoid : Elizabeth, Salisbury, and associated Northern suburbs. Far southern suburbs. Let's face it - the further you go from the city, generally the cheaper house prices are, generally people of a lower social demographic live there, generally there is more crime, less well maintained properties/facilities, and it takes a long time to get to the city (where most things in Adelaide are based). Sorry for the sweeping generalisations, but you want the info.

Hope I have been of some help.

[mid life crisis]

i think you need to get that silver spoon out of ya arse. there are some fantastic suburbs further north and depending on your travel requierments there are some real bargains to be had . not everybody wants to live in a suburb where the gutters of each house touch each otherand you could walk around the block on the roofs . or want to put up with the noise of the city . my partner works in the city and we live on a 1/2 acre block at munno para west .if you like train travel it takes 30 mins to the city and 25 bucks a week for a multi trip ticket . parking a car in the city can be very expensive . crime well apart from the time i lived in a unit at rosslyn pk i have never been broken into or had a car vandalized . i love the fact that for 350k i brought freehold a 4 bedroom house with huge family room a 60ft x 20 ft shed all landscaped garden and double carport under main roof pergolas ect ect ect the burbs might be ok if you dont have more than 2 cars or you dont mind parking out on the street . i love the amount of room we have the size of the block and the cash left over from selling that tiny unit at rosslyn pk to someone else with a silver spoon up there arse lol

cheers and happy new yr

[Cubes]

It really depends what you are after.

I absolutely hate heading in to or close to the city. The air simply stinks, the traffic is crap and the speed limit is 50-60km/h everywhere.

I'll always live on the outskirts in a good clean area such as Moana, Seaford, Pt noarlunga south thats only a short walk away from the beach.

The oldies are currently living on the esplanade. The esplanade is extremely over rated; the car is always dirty the next morning after its washed, house windows are always dirty and the hoons are a pain in the arse. And yes the house will need painting every year or so. Live a street back and the house can go for many years without the need for a pain.

A nice little house a street away from the seafront down Moana, Seaford & Port Noarlunga Sth is where I aim.

I absolutely love driving home to the smell of the sea and slight crashing of waves. I find it relaxing, I really didn't know what I was missing until I moved away.

I also dislike hot weather, its always a couple of degree's cooler down this way.

Its not as 'pretty' as Glenelg, Henley Beach and what not but there's also a hell of a lot LESS cement around, much more open and relaxing. Glenelg etc feels all too cramped up with their new big apartment buildings that I think are absolutely ugly.

So it all comes down to what you want.

To live in the rat race or live some where thats just that little bit slower and relaxing.

I'll grab some pics later.

[Cubes]

and some pics just out from where the oldies live.

Not sure what the surfers are doing lol. There's no surf.

[Nightcrawler]

mid life crisis - you don't need to personally attack me. He asked where the best suburbs are, and (as a professional in the field) I told him.

We put higher property risk ratings on valuations of properties in Northern suburbs for a very good reason. It is simple fact, whether you like it or not.

The fact that you have only been broken into once is pure luck - I value properties out there all the time and you'd be absolutely amazed at some of the stories I hear and some of the things I see. I don't hear those stories or see some people living in squalor in Northgate. Fact.

And, I qualified everything I said in that it "depends entirely what you want" - and this guy clearly has money and favours living near the city for Uni/work purposes. And also stated upfront that I am biased toward the eastern/north eastern area - like Joel says there a plenty of other good places to live. Every person in Adelaide has a different opinion and have expressed mine.

[Bl4cK32]

<snip>Far southern suburbs. Let's face it - the further you go from the city, generally the cheaper house prices are, generally people of a lower social demographic live there, generally there is more crime, less well maintained properties/facilities <snip>

I think he means that u personally attacked everyone with them comments there. Back a couple of years ago id agree with u Nightcralwer, but unless u actually live in a suburb u cant comment on whats its acutally like to live there. Regardless if the housing is cheaper, and there is more crime, its not necessary to group all individuals into "lower social demographic" in a particular location.

Ive heard people say before that North eastern suburbs are for richer, well off snotty stuck up people, and it offended me as i didnt consider myself like that, even though i had the same opinion u had quoted above at the time.

There are good and bad areas no matter what suburb u live in -Im sure there are families who arnt the typical tv type that live in Burnside, but on the other hand im sure that there are a lot of loving, happy families who try to do the right thing etc living in Salisbury...Im sure there are drug growers, and ectasy users on your street NC, u just dont know it

cant we all just get along

[Nightcrawler]

yep I mostly agree with what you have said Black32 .... but generally you have to agree that not many doctors live down south (compared to maybe Burnside), and not many factory workers/unemployed people/housing trust people live in Burnside. I made sweeping generalisations, yes, but they are only that. I still think what I said is true. Generally speaking you buy a house relative to what you can afford, and what you can afford is closely linked to what education you have, and what demographic you belong to. IN GENERAL - of course there are many exceptions to the rule.

I think there are plenty of non-rich/snotty people in the North-eastern area - tons of them (my parents are a good example). I never claimed it was better - I just claimed from what I have seen, and taking into consideration the good facilities in the area etc, that is where I would recommend Markyboy consider buying. He is after all asking our advice. If I advised him to live in Munno Para or Hackham West and told him they are the best suburbs in Adelaide, I wouldn't be doing him a favour would I? (Given his parameters of money to spend and desire to be near city for work and Uni).

[4door_Sleeper]

markyboy.1967, I'm not sure what its like in your part of the UK, but in Australia the lines are not as clear between the haves and have-nots.

In my experience the English like to know their place in the social structure (I'm above him, but I'll tip me hat to you Gov) but here in Australia we all consider ourselves much more equal. (I'll chat to the local MP or a bum at the Pub and not judge them)

I think some of the banter on here is just people who consider they live in the best part of Adelaide (and they are probably correct for themselves)

You will find Adelaide is very spread out for such a small population, but there are many arterial roads that make transport quick and efficient. We also have quite diverse options from the beach to hills, modern and historic, high density and acreages.

[Madaz]

well said Guy

so i do live in the best area

[4door_Sleeper]

Well maybe not in your case Steve, but the others do. LOL

[sinistaGTR]

hey nothing wrong with burnside lol......

[markyboy.1967]

Ok maybe some of the slight bickering has come down to the fact that i didnt make myself clear enough on what i want and need in Australia...Im very grateful for all the help you guys have given me and especially to Nightcrawler who took what is obviously allot of time to try and help better inform me.

I searched through places for sale in Norwood last night along with a place called Walkley heights and this is my thoughts-

Norwood seems sligtly more expensive for what i could buy, basically a small 3 or 4 bedroom with neighbours gardens touching..I think i could afford to buy but not to sure i would settle for several years. I do like knowing my neighbours though for the friendly over the fence chat or in the drive way though.

Walkley Heights seems to be a little cheaper and has a few decent sized houses which have 4 beds for no more than 500k--prefer mid 450k. few of the homes we looked at were 700-900--sq/m and i liked that. I could have picked a few in Walkley Heights

What i do know is that i like a home with an outside area for a barbie but not 1 which touches the neighbours side fence--would like a grassed area between myself and neighbours( even if its only 3 to 4 meters ). Need a small back lawn area where i could relax in the not to warm days. For the house itself we like a modern interior with 3 but prefer 4 bedrooms. It would need to have large spacious living areas with decent sized bedrooms ( at least 3 of the 4 rooms to be double rooms ). We would like a lounge plus family room. What we do like is that you guys sometimes have a family type room at the top of stairs when going up a floor so if not a bungalow then this looks nice and something we dont have here in Scotland.A nice dead end type street where cars cant use as a drive through to get to another area is great and child friendly. And guys what the hell is a "Rumpus Room "....

I need to be close enough to work( where ever i find work ). Close to school/college/Uni for my family ( no more than 45 mins driving to get to each ).I would like no more than about 45 mins drive to the beach. I do like like the idea of living in a beach town but dont like the property management/painting which you guys suggest needs to be done each year.Close enough to go to the local Mall/Supermarkets for groceries. Little crime rate and a good community feel.Last but not least i would like an area where property prices are on the increase so the home is an investment. This could be where a new freeway is being built to connect to the city or areas of large investment.

So from the info above could maybe 3-5 areas be suggested for me to try.

Again Thanks for all your effort guys and i do appreciate that some will have a prefference over others, so thats why i have tried to be clear on what i like and dont like.

Edited January 1, 2007 by markyboy.1967

[sinistaGTR]

rumpus room.....massive room that you use to put the spare tv and xbox in....the pool table etc....more for a kids fun room. And "What i do know is that i like a home with an outside area for a barbie but not 1 which touches the neighbours side fence"......do you poms know how to barbie...lol (dont worry we just had a guy that moved from the uk start at work and he had never done a bbq till he moved here and his bout 45).

Norwood is a very nice area as i live near there. Its only bout 5-10mins to the city itself and prob 20-30mins to the beach. Has nice shops that are close to get all your needs etc lol and low crime rate. maybe the other guys can help with the other suburbs. hoped i have helped a bit.

[Cubes]

I do like like the idea of living in a beach town but dont like the property management/painting which you guys suggest needs to be done each year. Close enough to go to the local Mall/Supermarkets for groceries. Little crime rate and a good community feel. Last but not least i would like an area where property prices are on the increase so the home is an investment. This could be where a new freeway is being built to connect to the city or areas of large investment.

Unless you buy ON the seafront/esplanade you don't have to paint every year or two.

I have lived no more than 2-3mins away from the beach since I can remember and in that time the house was painted every ~5years, absolutely no less. The house was very tidy and even as 5yrs approached it still looked perfectly fine, just the usual sun fade.

The southern Moana/Pt Noarlunga/Seaford area I love so much is ~40-45mins from town; that time will drop once the new freeway is built. Its ~20mins from Flinders University.

[Cubes]

Interestingly the oldies recently sold their house a couple of back streets back from Moana Beach. A family from the UK bought it. Nice large 1/4 acre block, wrought iron gates, elec roller door, modern open living 2 story, theatre room, 4/5 bedroom, dining, lounge double garage up the back with a PIT!!! etc for just over mid 400's.

You could always buy a large block down the area's I have suggested and build what you want for 400-500k quite easily, depends how much you like landscaping as it almost always works out cheaper to buy established.