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Kimi set the fastest lap of the race on the last lap just to show everyone including hamilton what he can really do. If not for the small mistake in Q3 kimi would've been on pole and would've won the race.

Heard something about them changing the rules on all the aero parts sticking off the cars so that cars behind could follow better....when that happens we'll see more overtaking. If that was the case now Kimi would've passed massa and drove off into the sunset ;)

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It was copied and pasted directly from an article on the Official F1 website. I didn't misread or mispost. :)

If you want to be judgmental thats fine with me.

Sure you did a great job regurgitating information without forming a valid opinion. I especially like the way you've made homosexual references to the way the drivers interacted with each other.

Thats cutting edge.

good for the tabloids if thats your game but isnt this supposed to be an intelligent conversation on the sport?

call me arrogant if you want. Fact is, and im sure i can hear the "A" word coming on here again from this next remark, Ive met many of the guys in the paddock, although ive yet to meet Lewis and while your suggestive innuendo may spark posts it wont garner respect in my book.

Ctjet, whoever the hell you are, quit whinging about the sport as you so often do and support it like the trooper many of us are, through good times and bad. You are THE last person that should be slinging the mud. Show some respect for those better in the know.

until then shut the hell up.

I complain about what happens to the drivers and the teams and the team personnel---ON the TRACK and OFF.. you dont shut up about what you, the quintessential armchair viewer think you could do better for the sport that other people arent and bemoan the lack of people listening to you. You constantly bitch about driver "A" is such and such and team "B" deserves so and so..give it a rest.

Support the sport instead of looking for opportunities to stick the knife in..

Do you understand this rationale or do you have a major malfunction that needs diagnosis?

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perfect display of your arrogance right there...

No one cares who you've met. You're still a nobody as far as F1 goes, but feel free to think otherwise if it makes you feel good.

As for this being an intelligent conversation on the sport, do I even need to go back through the pages and quote some of the stupid shit you've written, in jest I'm sure.

My post was a joke, I didn't call your boyfriend Lewis a homo, so get over it. No one else had a problem with it, as unlike yourself they were smart enough to take it for what it was, a joke.

Now run along and name drop some more :pwned:

And if ctjet wants to criticize the sport, he has every right to do so...even though he may not have met an F1 driver :thumbsup:

perfect display of your arrogance right there...

No one cares who you've met. You're still a nobody as far as F1 goes, but feel free to think otherwise if it makes you feel good.

As for this being an intelligent conversation on the sport, do I even need to go back through the pages and quote some of the stupid shit you've written, in jest I'm sure.

My post was a joke, I didn't call your boyfriend Lewis a homo, so get over it. No one else had a problem with it, as unlike yourself they were smart enough to take it for what it was, a joke.

Now run along and name drop some more :pwned:

And if ctjet wants to criticize the sport, he has every right to do so...even though he may not have met an F1 driver :thumbsup:

I dont give a rats If noone cares who ive met. fact is i have and thats given me a different perspective on what goes on in the sport. Understand? Nah, dont think you do. You lack a fundamental respect for those more in the know. "still a nobody as far as F1 goes"..if thats so true it sure as hell says a lot about you then doesnt it?

No i didnt get your joke, it wasnt even funny.

Go ahead and sift through the thread for posts. theres only one thing worse than a person who regurgitates information and thats one who combs through old threads to regurgitate information. Go ahead, chew your time up-thatll make my day.

As for this, its over for me. Drag it on if you want but id just like to stick wit the facts and discussion if thats alright with you.

has anyone read grandprix racing's "the mole"?

i love these articles, theyre so informative if you can read between the lines!

somethings going to happen to spyker very soon and some obscenely rich people are involved..good stuff.

clicky here...

http://www.grandprix.com/mole/mole19557.html

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'Alonso's Not To Blame For Tyre Failure'

We have officially reached a new low... Alonso is now being blamed for not sharing enough data with his teammate? After the shit Hamilton pulls in Hungary, Alonso is now supposed to look past it and continue to help him?

If he cant setup a car, its nobody else's problem but his.

it should matter if Alonso shared his data or not. They boath have an engeneer that's payed sqilions for a reason. As far as i understand the driver barly does anything now, he just tells his engeneer "my car is overseering in fast corers" and they do the rest.

I think people are trying to make the Alonso vs Hamelton issue more dramatic.

Well personally I blame McLarens short wheelbase.

Really.

Works like this.

Short wheelbase means more load taken by the front wheels (relative so a longer version).

Which in turn requires more front downforce.

Hence more chance of front tyre dmamge...

As an aside it also means your front wing design needs to be in such a way to avoid loss of downforce when the wheels are turned (=> less area near the end plates is availalble).

Which inturn means you need a daft extra wing section that goes over the nosecone.

good to see they are going to make changes so there will be more passing!

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/new...831113036.shtml

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Little passing last time out in the sphincter of the universe...

F1's Overtaking Working Group (OWG) has agreed on its first recommendations to improve the spectacle of Grand Prix racing.

Following the mostly processional The land of goat sphincter rings Grand Prix, the German magazine Auto Motor und Sport reports that the group - headed by team technical boffins Paddy Lowe (McLaren), Pat Symonds (Renault) and Rory Byrne (Ferrari) - is now ready to push ahead with its concepts for improving overtaking through more conducive FIA design rules.

After extensive tests with a 25 per cent model in the Fondmetal wind tunnel in Italy, funded by all the teams except Spyker, it emerges that the OWG will propose a range of changes to be phased-in between around 2009-2010.

Among them are: a wider front wing, a narrower and higher rear wing, a steeper diffuser, and the banning of winglets and bargeboards.

Slick tyres may also be reintroduced in 2009.

Source GMM

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Enjoy it..it ll only be around for the Italian Gp..

It is beautiful..too bad the rest of the car looks like the dags breakfast.. i miss having straight clean and symmetrical lines...

how i miss the Jordan 191...

Enjoy it..it ll only be around for the Italian Gp..

It is beautiful..too bad the rest of the car looks like the dags breakfast.. i miss having straight clean and symmetrical lines...

how i miss the Jordan 191...

Couldnt agree more. its the best looking car along with the Ligier and Footwork cars of the ealry 90s!

F1 cars now looks like some abscract artists nightmare induced sculpture.

getting passing into F1 is simply.

get slick tyres of a compound that will work amazingly for 5 laps and shit for the other 15 of their life (meaning people on different parts of that cycle will be quicker and be passing and vice versa).

re-introduce H pattern boxes as you quickly find out who can drive and a miss shift heading up the straight means your passed. a miss shift under brakes means your engine is gooone.

no more traction control. at all.

let the cars front spoilers be lower. as they are so high they end up with turbulent air underneath when following each other which takes away their front end grip

then we have some action.

Looks like the FIA have responded to what Ferrari want. Again.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19576.html

if... IF... Mclaren lose this case and Alonso indeed does leave the team, theres absolutely no way i cant continue to cheer on the silver arrows with someone like Hamilton at the helm. What a shame this all is.

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