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Not exactly acting like a man bullying a female journalist isn't it!

Well a picture says a thousand words:45351_2.jpg

thats a very insensitive remark. Ron Dennis is like a second father to LH. I dont think any driver i can think of has ever had this paternal situation to guide them through their careers. You can be sure of one thing...RD is never going to send LH down the river and LH is never going to betray RD.

i think is a marvelous thing. That picture was touching. i liked it.

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It aint over yet ...... McLaren to appeal!!!! I never would have guessed that! I just wonder if the the same rule applies to the McLaren drivers if the teams in question are found to have cheated ?????? Better than all the daytime soapies put together ..... well maybe not better than DoOL :-)

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Appeal to be heard soon. Apparantly it all hinges on the BMW fuel temperatures, and wether they take the official track temp as standard, or they use the meteorological data from the weather service.

The tolerance is +-10 degrees, and BMW were allegedly at -14 to -16 degrees.

Now, I am and have been a McLaren fan for a long time, but this is no way to win a championship. It should be decided on the track. Yes, cooling the fuel would allow more fuel to get into the engine, hence more power, but Hamilton wasn't catching them up enough anyway. Alonso passed them, so it can't have been a great advantage.

I hope they let the result stand. Kimi is a great driver and deserves the championship.

Ferrari even managed to let Kimi in front without making it too obvious too!

Hats off to Ferrari for winning the race. They had a game plan and executed it perfectly, from Massa blocking Lewis off the line, and allowing Kimi through right up to their pit strategy and tyre selection, they were the better team on the day, and have been for the last few races.

I can only hope that the FIA leaves well enough alone, and that next season Webber has a car that can finish every race. He must have missed out on about 30 points this season due to "New issues".

Redbull better stop making their cars out of other teams spare parts.

ANyone know where I can get "WEBBER WDC 2008" merchandise?

Apparently there is a precedent where Schumi and Coulthard got let off without reprimand with the same thing back in 1995...

If they bring out 'well they still broke the rule'... Look at certain 'tyre rules' from this year, Hamilton got let off with a crappy fine for using more than one set of wets at Interlagos, yet race control made Kimi loose positions in Japan for the intermediate saga (Which I dare say, nearly cost him the championship... Let it stand!!!

Good on Kimi, there isnt a more deserving driver in the field. I've never cheered on a red car in my life but for the first time ever i was pretty content when he crossed first.

Alonso i dont think gave a shit anymore, he just wants to be gone and old hammo, well he really cracked under the pressure. Biggest n00b mistake ever into turn 3... seriously what a fool, you got greedy and upset and it cost you the WDC and you have nobody to blame but yourself. He could have trundled around in 4th all afternoon and taken the title no sweat.

Massa your a such a little bitch its just not funny any more. You are now the joke of the field. To lose to a new teammate when this years championship was so perfectly geared towards you is amazing. You had better get down and lick Jean Todt's feet because he's the ONLY reason you'll be in a decent car next year... with no traction control for next year, get ready, kimi is really going to hand your ass to you

On a side note, thanks FIA for really f*king this years championship right up. You did a top job shafting Mclaren out of both championships, i look forward to seeing how you continue to ruin the sport in '08.

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Go Kimi. louise is a fag. alonso is a fag. kimi is the only one who knows how to get smashed at the strippers. hamilton will probably celebrate his first WDC by getting spooned by his daddy. alonso will do some stupid chicken dance or something, but at least kimi will get out there, score a nice bag of coke, few cases of champagne and paint the town red whilst banging a few groupies at every club he calls into.

only the beer baron stayed true to kimi's cause. I know louise and sanchez would crumble. good on you kimi. you deserved it mate. twice cheated before by an unreliable maclaren, how fitting that in part maclaren unreliability (for hamilton in brazil) helped you get this WDC.

anyone want to suggest that gearbox glitch was actually a deliberate incident or an act of God?

i have the strangest suspicion it was intended to happen...why i have no idea but ive never seen that happen to a driver this year..

it happens to webber every second race ;) lol.

Well it is a fitting end to an awful year.

Ferrari & the FIA used illegally obtained documents to stitch up McLaren.

Ferrari demonstrated how completely bereft of any integrity they are.

The FIA demonstrated favouritism not seen since the JMB days.

Alonso demonstrated to the world just how big an arsehole he is.

Now apparently you can get away with an illegal performance advantage as long as Ferrari don't suffer.

Can someone please start a 2008 F1 thread because this year sucked.

Were it not for the emergance of Lewis Hamilton & Nico Rosberg there would be nothing positive to remember.

personally i would hate winning a championship by needing the help of the FIA to kick out some cars so you can jump up a few places.

dirty scumbag way to win i reckon....

Next year should be interesting

i dont see why the quicker teams dont snap him up, he obviously proves he is a good driver and can get the times in, 5th is a awesome position on a hard circuit, along with the heat, and diff direction

how interesting it would be if mclaren replaced alonso with webber

ohhhh the potential title race would be amazing

my god the commentary was powerfully lame. for 80% of the race the only plausible contenders were kimi and alonso. instead they couldn't shut the fk up about hamilton coming through the field. all it showed me is that he has a car that looks to have about 80hp on about 16 of the cars in the field as he blew by them on the straight. but get a grip. many of the places he made up were through other people retiring.

as for this penalty to BMW bullshit. hamilton finished a lap down so as far as I know he cannot be bumped up the order. he basically just drove a very poor race. alonso was just plain slow, and kimi didn't put a foot wrong.

considering he has come through a year with questionable reliability, with the most wins and the WDC you'd think people would want to talk about kimi not bloody louise and gonzo. sure lewis had a great rookie year, but put it in perspective. I mean he's not driving a minardi. he is driving what is probably the best all round car in the field, in a team he has been associated with for years, on tracks he has raced before. pretty much anyone in the field in that maclaren would be in the top 4 consistently. louise has also shown some questionable ethics, and tactics and just plain bad manners too. personally I think he's a bit of a wanker.

good on you kimi.

personally i would hate winning a championship by needing the help of the FIA to kick out some cars so you can jump up a few places.

dirty scumbag way to win i reckon....

Next year should be interesting

i dont see why the quicker teams dont snap him up, he obviously proves he is a good driver and can get the times in, 5th is a awesome position on a hard circuit, along with the heat, and diff direction

how interesting it would be if mclaren replaced alonso with webber

ohhhh the potential title race would be amazing

Yeah, it'd be great, because on a level playing field, one Aussie is worth 3 Brits in any sport. Webber FTW!

Well it is a fitting end to an awful year.

Ferrari & the FIA used illegally obtained documents to stitch up McLaren.

Ferrari demonstrated how completely bereft of any integrity they are.

The FIA demonstrated favouritism not seen since the JMB days.

Alonso demonstrated to the world just how big an arsehole he is.

Now apparently you can get away with an illegal performance advantage as long as Ferrari don't suffer.

Can someone please start a 2008 F1 thread because this year sucked.

Were it not for the emergance of Lewis Hamilton & Nico Rosberg there would be nothing positive to remember.

speaking of rosberg, he's got balls. how was his scrap with heidfeld and kubica? you certainly couldn't accuse him of not trying. questionable judgment sometimes, but he was having a decent go. and good old kubica was there to snap up 2 places in one corner. niiiice.

another note, apart from taking out his pit crew I thought nakajima was pretty impressive. 5th fastest outright lap, and had plenty of scraps on track even getting ass rammed by coulthard at one point, but he kept it together. he could be on target for a seat next year I reckon.

Maybe Williams can cement its place as the team for sons of former drivers. Hill, Villeneuve, Rosberg, Nakajima....

Rosberg has come on well this year. He got spanked by Webber last year, but tahter than going & having a sulk he instead has driven very, very well. Proof in the pudding has been his qualifying.

Nakajima did ok too. Qualifying was horrible, but he raced well. Maybe he listened too much to Alex Wurz.

Here is hoping Nelson Piquet's young bloke can get a good drive next year.

my god the commentary was powerfully lame. for 80% of the race the only plausible contenders were kimi and alonso. instead they couldn't shut the fk up about hamilton coming through the field. all it showed me is that he has a car that looks to have about 80hp on about 16 of the cars in the field as he blew by them on the straight. but get a grip. many of the places he made up were through other people retiring.

as for this penalty to BMW bullshit. hamilton finished a lap down so as far as I know he cannot be bumped up the order. he basically just drove a very poor race. alonso was just plain slow, and kimi didn't put a foot wrong.

considering he has come through a year with questionable reliability, with the most wins and the WDC you'd think people would want to talk about kimi not bloody louise and gonzo. sure lewis had a great rookie year, but put it in perspective. I mean he's not driving a minardi. he is driving what is probably the best all round car in the field, in a team he has been associated with for years, on tracks he has raced before. pretty much anyone in the field in that maclaren would be in the top 4 consistently. louise has also shown some questionable ethics, and tactics and just plain bad manners too. personally I think he's a bit of a wanker.

good on you kimi.

Hear Hear (or however the spell it)

I loved the 1/4 heated "and kimi wins the wdc" as kimi crossed the line. If Hamelton had of won i'd be replacing my speakers today. And the way they carried on about how Alonso should drop right back to give cry baby a chance.

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