What Car Should Mike Buy?

[lilmike86]

yeah i am, i've decided its the mx5. just gotta pick an engine plan now

[666DAN]

Looks like the one I nearly got a year back, a nice white import turbo MX-5

[lilmike86]

Looks like the one I nearly got a year back, a nice white import turbo MX-5

you mean the pics i posted up before i dont know how you could have acquired that one, its GARAGE VARY's centre piece. they wouldnt part with it. unless someone else has a kit in oz as well

[666DAN]

Similar, not exact. It didn't have the front end bollocks that one has.

[85URK]

toyota aristo then manual conversion FTW!!!!

[IanB]

Mike, with the mounts, I replaced a BP with a BPT (GTX) and it bolted straight up to everything. Same mounts, same gearbox, fule and vacum lines etc etc...

[lilmike86]

if this was your astina then it would use the same mounts. prob is both the familia and the astina are east-west mounted. mx5 is north-south. i know that they could line up fine, but there is a chance they might not. main concern is the turbo and manifolds etc. they could get in the way.

let me think..............everything will be on the left side of the engine if mounted in mx5. so i'd either have to get a new manifold made up and shift everything or i could be lucky and it might fit? not too sure

i had an idea today actually. was browsing the net, and found a couple of shells for sale. think it might be cheaper to buy a shell and then go from there rather than chop the car to pieces. not sure on the idea yet but will look into it more.

[IanB]

if ud asked me before I sold the astina off id have let you rip the engine out of it and try it in the MX5, provided u put it back in and everything worked again.

[dangerous_daveo]

with the gearbox, we were planning to put either a 5sp supra box or rx7 box in, both of which are pretty strong and can take a bit of abuse.

with regards to the familia engine. i think the only issue wit the transplant would be the mounts. the engines themselves arent too different. if i managed to get a BPD, and put it in a 1996 model (1.8 with popup headlights) i dont think there would be too many problems. they are the same engine block really. the familia has the bpd while the mx5 only has a bp. so i dont think there would be any issues there except making new mounts.

i'm looking at purchasing a racing hardtop from bullet, they are about 4500 (1500 more than stock ones) but have extra supports (i think its like a mini roll cage) built into the roof and heavy duty latches in case you do flip it. i will also install the rollover bars as well and racing harnesses. also, they do have a soft top standard so rain isnt really an issue?

Either way man, if you cant put the bpd in, if its almost the same all the pistons and that shouldnt be too hard to get a hold of, the only reason I see a problem is I know other people who have tried the fwd engine, to rwd engine thing, and found it a lot harder than they thought, they did get it done, just a signficantly more cost than planned, something to do with gearboxs and clutches from memory, along with a few other small hicups. Just a bit of reasearch should sort it out.

But if you can get a good quality hard top, go for it hey man. It should be fairly reliable, obviously quick, good range of suspension mods for them. Common enough to not get hassled by the po po, yet still different enough to get a bit of interest.

I personally would still stick with the piston motor, I think it would be far less hassles in the long run, and just turbo the stocker until it blows up which gives you more time to save (ie money saved can be earning you some interest or something, pay off a bit more of your loan if you got one or whatever).

But yeah, go for it hey. Its just the 2 seat thing Make sure you can live with only 2 seats.

[IanB]

turboing a stock BP will last all of 2 months on the outside, and you will have to go with aftermarket management (which would prob help anyway...)

I dont think turboing the stock engine for the intrum is a good idea, its wasted money, if it blows its liable to take the gearbox or turbo or something else with it.

[lilmike86]

yeah, 2 seats are fine with me. i usually only let one person in my car anyway so it should help

i didnt really like the idea of turbocharging the stock engine, unless i put the forgies in it. but it would still end up costing bout 5k to turbo the stocker. for that price i could have a better engine. i know for a fact that a B6T fits in just fine as there is one going round with it in it, it pulls 10's down the quarter too

i found out that my mechanic is back from holidays now so i'm gonna pay him a visit and see what he thinks. he's pretty good with these sort of things, plus he'll put a mod plate on almost anything as long as he does the work

[lilmike86]

looks like its settled, we're keeping the stock engine. this is what my friend, the one helping me build it said.

QUOTE(70XIN @ Jan 6 2007, 09:17 AM)

MX5 B6 (stock engine)

-Manifold

-Td05-big 16g/Garrett GT28RS

-Big Hybrid Cooler

-Pod

-Piping + silicon bends

-Microtech LT-10s

-3" Dump pipe and Exhaust

-RX7 injectors

-Make an airbox for the pod

-Coilovers

-Strut Braces

-Kit

-Wheels

Goodluck to *most* cars keeping up with that on a mountain .. plus, in a straight line on 10-12psi, you will spin 2nd with ease

When shit breaks

-RX7 box and diff

-Forged rods and pistons

Running 20-25psi. Faster than the GTiR by a heap .. except from a standstill .. traction will be teh funneh!

You have my list That's what i always wanted to do.

[IanB]

Id put forgies and rods in it from the outset, otherwise it will be shaking them before you know what your doing at 12 PSI on the standard (High Comp) pistons.

Will make for quite a mountain weapon however, this is true.

[MajorSick]

I still think your waisting your time with the hole Mr5 thing. Sure spend 20 k on it and you will get

250kw easy and it will sound like a beast but hello gtr = wtf > you in a race. Sure you may not be interested in raceing now but sooner or later your going to want to and when you get blased by a GTR down the road and you want to race your tyre spin and lack of body weight is going to be the end of you.

Sure Mr5 Cheaper to mod and you can have a load of rear wheel fun with it * Burn outs *

But its nothing a GTS-T cant do and people take a skyline more seriously.

Thats my opinion ofcorse and if i was going to but another car it wouldnt be any of the ones you listed

Honda NSX Super Sport S series for the win

[lilmike86]

the reason i'm avoiding the GTR is: firstly, the price tag. just cant afford it. to buy and maintain a gtr right now would send me broke. secondly, i dont want to go awd again i decided. not till i can drive a rwd to almost its limits. once i have done that, then i will move onto another awd.

i'm not interested in straight line stuff anymore, anyone can do it. i want to challenge my self, not others. i'll get more satisfaction from beating myself than someone else.

also, honda nsx is not cheap and waaaaaaaay outta budget.

[IanB]

Bear in mind that the GTR is mostly a RWD car.

[lilmike86]

i know that, just i want a purely rwd car. when i'm done with it i will upgrade

[dangerous_daveo]

looks like its settled, we're keeping the stock engine. this is what my friend, the one helping me build it said.

QUOTE(70XIN @ Jan 6 2007, 09:17 AM)

MX5 B6 (stock engine)

-Manifold

-Td05-big 16g/Garrett GT28RS

-Big Hybrid Cooler

-Pod

-Piping + silicon bends

-Microtech LT-10s

-3" Dump pipe and Exhaust

-RX7 injectors

-Make an airbox for the pod

-Coilovers

-Strut Braces

-Kit

-Wheels

Goodluck to *most* cars keeping up with that on a mountain .. plus, in a straight line on 10-12psi, you will spin 2nd with ease

When shit breaks

-RX7 box and diff

-Forged rods and pistons

Running 20-25psi. Faster than the GTiR by a heap .. except from a standstill .. traction will be teh funneh!

You have my list That's what i always wanted to do.

Missed one MAJOR thing off that list dude. BRAKES!!!

[IanB]

breaks arent important when building a fast car daveo, dont you know that?

Mike you were going to buy the MX5 from the word go with this thread. The majority vote was for a 32 GTR, yet you completly discarded this and went with the MX5 anyway.

Im not saying dont buy what you want and im not saying follow the trend or popular oppinion, but why ask for it when you dont particually care what everyone says? Or was it just to see if your MX5 idea was popular?

In any case, you will need much better breaks then the stock MX5 ones, and forgies and B6T rods from the outset, otherwise this project will just end in tears.

[dangerous_daveo]

breaks arent important when building a fast car daveo, dont you know that?

Mike you were going to buy the MX5 from the word go with this thread. The majority vote was for a 32 GTR, yet you completly discarded this and went with the MX5 anyway.

Im not saying dont buy what you want and im not saying follow the trend or popular oppinion, but why ask for it when you dont particually care what everyone says? Or was it just to see if your MX5 idea was popular?

In any case, you will need much better breaks then the stock MX5 ones, and forgies and B6T rods from the outset, otherwise this project will just end in tears.

Not picking on you exclusivly here dude, but... This is a car site, so I think this needs to be addressed, to everyone who makes this mistake read the below.

Brakes is what stops your car.

If your brakes dont work, you break your car.

So lets go over that again. On a car its Brake. In music is breaks.