Jump to content
SAU Community

Who Tuned Your Power Fc?


NYTSKY
 Share

Recommended Posts

Ok, so i have my baby back from Tunehouse in Marrickville. My car went from 140.9rwkw, now i have 204.5rwkw. My torque figures went from 1027.2Nm @ 5196rpm to 1518.3Nm at 4473rpm. very happy with the results. i also replaced the oxygen sensor, now i just have to hope the fuel economies are better...

My mods are:

3.5" turboback stainless Xforce exhaust

Apexi Pod Air Intake

GFB Stealth FX BOV

GFB Atomic Boost Controller

Front Mount Intercooler

Apexi Power FC

That is very decent power from the mods listed.... Interesting..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 135
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Kennedy,

I stuck with my turbosmart single stage

and I only have a 3 inch dump pipe, not split and standard cat.

Oh, yes, standard turbo and injectors

Ryan - Hows it going mate??

Yep, was Unigroup!

and extremely impressed!!

I'll post up my results when I get a chance, I know Im lazy.. ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had my PFC installed and tuned at Advan performance in Silverwater went from 160rwkw ro 192rwkw, but my next tune will be at unigroup I have heard alot of good things about them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok, so i have my baby back from Tunehouse in Marrickville. My car went from 140.9rwkw, now i have 204.5rwkw. My torque figures went from 1027.2Nm @ 5196rpm to 1518.3Nm at 4473rpm. very happy with the results. i also replaced the oxygen sensor, now i just have to hope the fuel economies are better...

My mods are:

3.5" turboback stainless Xforce exhaust

Apexi Pod Air Intake

GFB Stealth FX BOV

GFB Atomic Boost Controller (running 13psi)

Front Mount Intercooler

Apexi Power FC

Thats about right for 13 psi. If your running standard turbo and you constantly hit WOT/13psi the ceramic wheel wont last long. I know of guy who have blown turbo's at 10 at wakefield

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Kennedy,

I stuck with my turbosmart single stage

and I only have a 3 inch dump pipe, not split and standard cat.

Oh, yes, standard turbo and injectors

Standard cat? Man change that cat and welcome yourself to the world of 200RWKW+

Hitman did mine and it was top. AFR's at 11.7. Also, The e-01 held dead straight all the way to my new redline of 7200RPM.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

yeah its rare i hit 13psi boost. im not really a super racer but i love to drive hard occasioally. just been for a trip to noosa on the sunshine coast. at first i was very unhappy with the fuel economy but it seems to be getting better. at first with highway driving i was still only getting 350kms per tank...after 2 tanks it seems the power fc is taking more notice of the O2 sensor and i now get 500kms per tank. with highway driving i would still like to see this around 600ks highway and in the city i want at least 400kms to a tank... i guess we'll wait and see.

the next purchase for my car will either be a set of tein coilovers or a new turbo! any suggestions, nothing to expensive.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A lot of good press for UniGroup on thier expertise with a PFC, BUT weren't they producing thier own ECU that was suppossed to be pretty good for SKylines as well some time ago?

I think it was a piggy back but I have an RB20DET Auto so cant use a PFC, or can I?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

UniGroup use an ECU called TSI which is made in Australia. TSI are the makers of FPV (Ford Performance Vehicle) ECU's in all the XR6T, Typhoon, GTP .etc. Its on their site.

Personally for a big build i would use CRD. They offer excellent service and proven performance.

For a tune I will always use J.E.M cause i have delt with them many times in the past and Adam has always delivered the best results. Even ask BU5TER his R33 was tuned by J.E.M @ 441rw/kw with 1/4 mile time of 10.5 @ 130 MPH.

Cheers

Edited by QRI05E
Link to comment
Share on other sites

A lot of good press for UniGroup on thier expertise with a PFC, BUT weren't they producing thier own ECU that was suppossed to be pretty good for SKylines as well some time ago?

I think it was a piggy back but I have an RB20DET Auto so cant use a PFC, or can I?

I think you might be confusing unichip with unigroup. two different companies.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi all,

I read carefully all the comments and I would like to share with you my story. I own an 1993 R33 GTS-t and after 2-3 years I decided to do some mods. When I start the mods I joined SAU and read different articles and different posts. I done pretty much everything you can do to my car: POWER FC, Manifold, injectors, ignition coils, intercooler, fuel pump, etc etc. Bought lots and lots of parts on e-bay and here on traders.

I needed an tuner and from our forum I picked up Yavuz, Unigroup. I went there told him what I want and got a quote. Sounded all pretty good so the work started. As you see was more than a ..."basic tune". We hit lots of walls, and up to 200kw was OK but I did not get the really big numbers. I wanted something between 270-300kw at the wheel. I spend twice the amount I was quoted in labour and tune but the result was still not there. Here is a curve of the best tune I achieved at UNIGROUP. Yavuz found a reason for everything but I was not looking for problems, I was looking for solutions. MY WASTEGATE WAS FAULTY and he refused to spend more time on it. I went back a couple of times, charged me some more but performances did nto change.

Please look at my curve, up to 220kw, all power came quick than more RPM's meant flatter curve. Engine did not GOOOOO. So I told to myself I reached Yavuz's limitations.

I started all over as my car is just a weekend car so, I could afford to do it. Head came off, reconditioned, TOMEI cam shafts, changed intercooler (HKS) replaced my beloved Mick metalcraft, Plazmaman plenum, changed flow in engine, start looking like a GTR. Internals still standard on engine. My bad decision was that I found a mechanic that done it in his backyard and the quality of his work was really poor and even $10.00 if I payed was a total waste of money.

I took this car to John at Unique (UAS). I told him my story and .... after 4 weeks of fixing every little problem I had could go on the dyna. You guys should see what checks are done there before your car goes on dyna and what checks you get from Yavuz, than you can tell the difference.

True my bill was fat, but everything was done before had to be redone. Bolts on my manifold had to be replaced as too weak for new manifold, they start breaking. Lots and lots of other problems have been identified and fixed. Even my engine mount was broken and replaced and properly secured. Fixing my wastegate was not a problem, was just a little something for Richard to fix. I told John I will not pay if there are no performance improvements

When car went on Dyna I got a call from Ben and asked me how much power I want. He said that he can give me easily 300+. I stopped at the modest 270kw at the wheel which I think is more than enough for my little GTS-t. When you take your car to tune be prepared for other problems to be identified which no other mechanic will tell you about so you do not know about.

When car was finished I went and show it to Yavuz and he did not have much to comment on it.

The conclusion is that if your car is not mechanicaly 100% before going on the DYNA, engine will not perform, as simple is that.

I stop my story here and if there are any people interested to find more details please feel free to message me.

NOW MY CAR IS DONE....it's left just to learn to drive it ...properly. I GOT A DRAGON AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO USE IT.

Cheers,

EUG.

post-26490-1170928672.jpg

post-26490-1170929285.jpg

post-26490-1170929331.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share




  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Define "Nissan big brakes". You just mean standard R34 4 pots? And...it's not even the offset you need to worry about. It's really a detail of how much clearance there is between the caliper and the back of the spoke/face, which is affected more by the design of the spoke than it is by the offset. If you think about it....take any wheel, say a 19x8 that does fit and clears the caliper. Then add or subtract an inch of wheel on the outside, without changing anything else. You have changed the offset by half an inch, but not changed the clearance situation at all. Same for if you add or subtract an inch from the inside edge. The way for you to work this out is to take a wheel off the car, grab a straight edge and a ruler or two, and start to measure the distances from the wheel mounting face on the hub to the outer face of the caliper, and the outer diameter (that faces the barrel of the wheel) of the caliper. Armed with these dimensions and any other measurement that grabs your fancy while you are there, you can then go to the seller of the wheels and do the reverse measurements from the wheel's mounting face and see if there will be clearance to the caliper. There really should be. I have 17x8 RPF1s +35 clearing the caliper face by a finger tip. Those wheels do have pretty thin spokes with some curvature.... but then so do most wheels to suit Jap cars.
    • So I’ve got a r34 sedan that I managed to get green stickered, meaning I need to go through government approved wof station for my car to be allowed back on the road for some reason my car is certed for 19x8 rims.. I need these wheels  does anyone know what offset will be fine to clear Nissan big brakes? I saw 35et for sale near me, I can’t drive the car to test fit or risk being fined ..   I searched heaps online couldn’t find anywhere..
    • Okay, with all that being said about sloppy blowing from twins, I happily acknowledge the superiority of a single turbo setup on the RB; however, I still plan on double trouble.  I know the -9s were quite popular for some time because they seemed to meet that sweet spot between the -7s and 5s, would introducing VCAM and/or stroking to 2.8L provide the additional displacement/flow to push twins closer to the 500-600 goal?  Does it make more sense for a daily to just do an engine overhaul, slap some -7s on it and enjoy a bit more reliable power?  Has anyone driven a mine's overhauled and tuned engine?  I know they certainly don't approach the power numbers that you drag monsters do down under, but for daily street usage, I just want it to be fun and healthy.
    • Mmmm. Perhaps more correctly stated that the one turbo doesn't actually force air back down the throat of the other. All it does, and all it has to do, is be pumping a little harder than the other turbo (which is an effect of how the turbos are getting driven by the exhaust and inherent resistance to output air flow that each turbo sees up to the merge). If the turbo that is not flowing quite as much then nudges the stall line (because it gets pushed there by the higher flowing one stealing the limelight and moving its own operating point further from the stall line), then you get the behaviour described by Josh. There is no need for air to move backwards in any way. It just needs to be less air moving forwards than is required to stay to the right of the surge line.
    • GTX2860R Gen 2 is an option. No, it doesn't actually do much. The basic problem with wanting 600 whp out of the factory twin turbo setup is a few things. One is that the twin turbo piping is just so, so inefficient. The front and rear turbos are not actually working evenly. The rear turbo is always moving more air than the front. On top of this the OEM rear compressor inlet is rubber that likes to collapse causing a huge intake restriction. The merge doesn't even wait until the intercooler to happen, and it happens at a 90 degree angle. This is why you see some discussion about "turbo shuffle", where in certain conditions one turbo can actually force air to go backwards into the other compressor and stall it out, then once the other turbo recovers it stalls out the first turbo in a cycle until you do something to break out of it. The other issue is that the RB26 is just not that efficient an engine. It needs a surprising amount of ignition timing to reach MBT for a given cylinder pressure so all that time in which the cylinder is pressurizing before TDC is just wasted energy. An N54 might be around 10 degrees BTDC on a stock turbo getting into the boost. An RB26 is closer to 25 BTDC. Net effect is a turbo roughly the size of what HKS uses on the GTIII-SS (smaller than the R3/GCG Japan "GT2860-1" -7s) is only good for maybe 550 crank hp or low 400 whp while a roughly comparable turbo on an N54 can deliver something like 700 crank hp and obviously drivetrain losses are greatly reduced when you aren't burning a bunch of power on keeping a hydraulic pump + transfer case preloaded all the time. So yes, you can make a lot of power but there's a reason why people go single turbo for the numbers you're asking about. Don't forget that the RB26 can't even do a straight line pull without oil starving on the stock oil pan either. Baffles can help, but really you just need more oil capacity.
×
×
  • Create New...