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Stinky Rooster Grand Master

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No offence to anyone that has a TT, but they seem like RICE to me... Your car won't cool down sitting still while running, you need to drive it around slowly so the air flow can cool it. Ever noticed on a hot day that your car gets warmer sitting at the lights, then cools down once you start moving again?

That is the whole explanation (in a nut shell) to why they are not worth having. And that they are a great place for a car thief to hot wire the car from...

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Luke

I always thought that a turbo timer wasn't just to cool the turbo down, but to give it a chance to slow down before shutting off.

Your turbo wheels can get up to a fair few rev's per minute while under boost and I for one like the idea of letting the revs slow down before I cut all oil and coolant pressure to the engine..

Just my 2cents

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loymclure Proficient

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this thread is old but i think i found a boost controller and turbo timer in one

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Electronic-Boost-Co...1QQcmdZViewItem

im not the smartest when it comes to reading specs ect.... so any one that wants to review this item for me and let me know if its worth its weight in $$$$ please feel free

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No offence to anyone that has a TT, but they seem like RICE to me... Your car won't cool down sitting still while running, you need to drive it around slowly so the air flow can cool it. Ever noticed on a hot day that your car gets warmer sitting at the lights, then cools down once you start moving again?

That is the whole explanation (in a nut shell) to why they are not worth having. And that they are a great place for a car thief to hot wire the car from...

Cheers

Luke

i laugh

your not cooling your car, your cooling your turbo with the oil and water flow

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Repeat of similar posts for many years............

Turbo Timer…..YUK

What do you want one of those for?

They are just an easy place for someone to steal your car.

Ooooo, I have to cool the turbo down after I thrash it.

Yeh, but what about the gearbox, didn’t you thrash it at the same time?

Oooooo, better buy a gearbox timer

What about the diff, didn’t you thrash it at the same time?

Oooooo, better buy a diff timer

If you were really driving fast enough to heat up the turbo then you probably used the brakes it to stop in the driveway.

Oooooo, better buy a brake timer

Surely it makes more sense to do a lap of the block to cool the whole lot down. Not just the turbo, idling in the driveway.

:O cheers :woot:

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Yeh, but what about the gearbox, didn’t you thrash it at the same time?

Oooooo, better buy a gearbox timer

Wel when your gearbox glows bright red....you might want one, but intil then dont bring that point up nad get a tranny cooler...

What about the diff, didn’t you thrash it at the same time?

Oooooo, better buy a diff timer

Same deal.

come on man, these arguments are lame and dont compare at all

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Wel when your gearbox glows bright red....you might want one, but intil then dont bring that point up nad get a tranny cooler...

Same deal.

come on man, these arguments are lame and dont compare at all

The turbo is designed to run red hot, the gearbox isn't.

The engine oil cooler doesn't work unless you are moving, no airflow.

Ditto manual transmission cooler.

Similarly diff cooler.

Brake rotors get hot spots and warp unless they are turning while cooling down

Basically sitting there with the engine idling does nothing for everything else and very very little for the turbo.

Do a lap of the block to cool it down, it's better for your car.

:O cheers :woot:

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lol holy shit balls

i just wanted to know if there was one or not, i dont do any laps to cool down right now due to my lazyness. and i think a turbo timer has its ups and downs but who cares its better me having one then not having one, and if there really are coolers out there for all those things you mentioned lol then ill buy em to. i think this thread is about what is out there not if its a good idea or bad idea im pretty sure there are heaps of threads like that already. whats the bet you have all done your own mods to your cars and they are all FKN sic mods and whats the bet that people have said "no it cant be done" or "thats a shit idea" i know SK has a fKN out standing reputation for knowing his shit and being the first to complete rather extensive mods. cheers for your input. but i want heaps of goodies for my car and if it gets stolen let the insurance company deal with that and if parts break let my bank deal with that.

NOW CAN SOMEONE FKN TELL ME IF THAT FKN EBC/TT IS WORTH THE PRICE THEY WANT?

cheers guys

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now i know my reasoning may sound really rice... but i fail to see why all the big brand names like apexi and hks with such a reputation to uphold will venture down the turbo timer manufacturing path just to capitalise off others ignorance with no real benefits to using the product.

I have a TT in my car (a generic brand one tho) ....normally i set it to 0 mins...but on some spirited driving days i'll leave it to run for 2 minutes before shutting down

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lol holy shit balls

i just wanted to know if there was one or not, i dont do any laps to cool down right now due to my lazyness. and i think a turbo timer has its ups and downs but who cares its better me having one then not having one, and if there really are coolers out there for all those things you mentioned lol then ill buy em to. i think this thread is about what is out there not if its a good idea or bad idea im pretty sure there are heaps of threads like that already. whats the bet you have all done your own mods to your cars and they are all FKN sic mods and whats the bet that people have said "no it cant be done" or "thats a shit idea" i know SK has a fKN out standing reputation for knowing his shit and being the first to complete rather extensive mods. cheers for your input. but i want heaps of goodies for my car and if it gets stolen let the insurance company deal with that and if parts break let my bank deal with that.

NOW CAN SOMEONE FKN TELL ME IF THAT FKN EBC/TT IS WORTH THE PRICE THEY WANT?

cheers guys

EBC ...yes definately worth the price...although some are using the $22 manual boost controller without any problems..so its all a matter of whether u rather spend the extra money elsewhere...

TT ...u can get a generic one which works just fine.

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I haven't seen anything else around that does both these things in one unit. No idea if that unit in question is any good or not...

You can get a bleed valve for ~$20 or an Apexi AVC for ~$500

Turbo Timers start at around ~$50 or so second hand

Up to you what you want and how to spend, if you can find someone to tell you that the unit in question is a good buy then go for it. Looks kind of big, hard to tell, is that thing a whole DIN size?

Cheers

Luke

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The turbo is designed to run red hot, the gearbox isn't.

The engine oil cooler doesn't work unless you are moving, no airflow.

Ditto manual transmission cooler.

Similarly diff cooler.

Brake rotors get hot spots and warp unless they are turning while cooling down

Basically sitting there with the engine idling does nothing for everything else and very very little for the turbo.

Do a lap of the block to cool it down, it's better for your car.

:no: cheers :down:

i read somewhere that the turbo actually continues spooling after the engine is turned off and therefore with the engine off and the oil pump obviously not running....the turbo spools without any oil and may cause premature wear on the bearings, the turbo timer is to keep the oil pump running and feeding the turbo whilst giving time for the turbo to slowly stop ....but hey...i probably read that off the back of a turbo timer packaging (aka marketing gimmick)

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i read somewhere that the turbo actually continues spooling after the engine is turned off and therefore with the engine off and the oil pump obviously not running....the turbo spools without any oil and may cause premature wear on the bearings, the turbo timer is to keep the oil pump running and feeding the turbo whilst giving time for the turbo to slowly stop ....but hey...i probably read that off the back of a turbo timer packaging (aka marketing gimmick)

The turbo still spins while idling under the turbo timer's control, EXACTLY the same as it does when you let the engine idle under your control. The turbo doesn't know it's the turbo timer holding the idle.

Turbo timers were of some use when we all had plain bearing turbos, with heavy rotating mass and mineral oil in the engine. Now we have balls, lightweight turbines and compressors and synthetic oil in our engines. Time has passed the turbo timer by.

Spend the $50 to $500 you save on not buying a turbo timer on making the car go faster or handle nicer. It's much better value for your money.

By far the best value for money boost controller I have used is the Jaycar IEBC, have a read of the thread on it as to why.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=61207

:no: cheers :down:

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Next post off topic will be deleted and warnings handed out.

Stay ON TOPIC please.

Clint obviously wants to buy one, so only answer his question on wether the one he is looking at is worth it or other suggestions ONLY please.

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Next post off topic will be deleted and warnings handed out.

Stay ON TOPIC please.

Clint obviously wants to buy one, so only answer his question on wether the one he is looking at is worth it or other suggestions ONLY please.

OK, that turbo timer is a waste of money.

:laugh: cheers :P

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