Boost Controller/turbo Timer/engine Management In One?

[Ska]

Clint, may I ask why you want to go EBC? I went the opposite, I had a EBC and went to a manual boost controller, cost me $35 and works brilliantly. If you do a search for $22 boost controller it has a HUGE thread about it.

So I guess it all depends on what your budget is?

And last warning guys, I am of the same persuasion as Gary, and now everyone has stated thier opinion, that is fine, please dont post it again in this thread. Clint already has made his mind up that he wants one, wether we like it or not. Dont go pouring fuel on the fire Grant, this will be the last time I ask you two to calm down.

[yokotas13]

just to touch on the EBC vs MBC thing

just straight up functionality, keeping the frills out

I have seen firsthand on higher HP cars (350+)

that a manual has a problem holding boost at higher levels, while an EBC doesn't in many cases.

Ive seen a number of MBC (halman, greddy etc etc) that cant hold their own on the top end, but the same manufacturers EBCs work flawlessly.

just a bit of info ive observed

[captinsane]

For what you want to do...get a manual boost controller and a guage... up to 100 bucks max i reckon...save yourself money and buy SK's sway bars or save up for a CGC highflow... or whatever is going to get you having more fun quicker... In the end of the day your MBC is NOT going to 'hurt' your car...

^^^^^^^

you two need to kiss and make up...like seriously...

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[Ska]

Yeah but honestly is Clint really looking for a 239749823487923ty billion HP car, no, which is why a MBC would be fine for his application. Agreed that EBC are more stable at higher power, but then he can upgrade it as the application gets more demanding.

And Chris is right, invest in a guage to see what you are actually running

[loymclure]

Clint, may I ask why you want to go EBC? I went the opposite, I had a EBC and went to a manual boost controller, cost me $35 and works brilliantly. If you do a search for $22 boost controller it has a HUGE thread about it.

So I guess it all depends on what your budget is?

And last warning guys, I am of the same persuasion as Gary, and now everyone has stated thier opinion, that is fine, please dont post it again in this thread. Clint already has made his mind up that he wants one, wether we like it or not. Dont go pouring fuel on the fire Grant, this will be the last time I ask you two to calm down.

yeah money isnt really an issue like if i want it bad enough ill buy it and suffer for a week or two on bread and water lol.... (true car lover)

well i want my car to look neat, i hate clutter thats why i first made this post, because i wanted a unit that did it all, 1 unit that i could get fitted that would be out of site untill i wish to use it. im a big fan of the stock interior look and guages dont impress me at all (personal opinion) i think it looks tacky when you dont take your car to the track but yet you have all these guages and electronics boxes sticking out every where and all you do is drive your car around as an every day driver.

So what i want is, toys to tinker with and something that gives me the ability to tweek my car safely but still can be hidden away so people peering through my window arnt thanking god because they are about to break my window and take every thing ive just put in.

cheers for all the replys guys and thanks for your input on that EBC/TT Garry ill keep looking and post back up here when i find something els.

but seriously you cant all say that you havn't thought about just having one unit that does every thing how much neater would it be?

Edited March 5, 2007 by loymclure

[yokotas13]

but see, if you drive your car everyday, that means you need thos gauges even MORE!!!

think of it

the likelyness of something going wrong on the track, in a well taken car of car, with 20 minute sessions, figure 5 session a track day.

Arent very high if everything is operating correctly (or at least in my host of trackdays ive never had a problem)

where most people have problems that need monitoring are in fact in daily driving. the stop and go traffic, and sitting in traffic, put more abuse on your engine on a regular basis than that one single tracday.

your car is mor elikely to overheat, oil temp to rise, while in traffic.

i hate gauges too, but i have some on the way, becuase well.....its a necessity

[Ska]

Yeah how would you know what boost you are running without a boost guage...........................?

[Tangles]

definately have a boost guage

I use a Hybrid dual stage EBC, keep it in the coinbox. Cheapest on the market

I have a turbo timer that is stashed up under the steering column but turned that off after day1 of car ownership as it is highly dangerous to use (as I found out when attempting to refil the car, the goddamend thing wouldnt turn off!)

A boost guage is a necessity

A ebc is a luxury item as a bleed valve will do almost the same job

A turbo timer isnt needed

Your car, modify how you want. Just work within the laws (to a degree) that apply in your state.

[loymclure]

i like what your saying but doesnt an EBC have a built in boost guage? i could be talking absolute crap. but yeah

[Tangles]

i like what your saying but doesnt an EBC have a built in boost guage? i could be talking absolute crap. but yeah

depends on your budget.

a Hybrid dual stage (2 settings) ebc is the cheapest on the market

it isnt a digital item, I got it as Iwasnt sure a turn screw bleed controller would hold 1bar of boost well. and I couldnt afford an expensive name brand one......

an expensive digital ebc may have a boost guage setting.

my car came with an apexi mechanical guage..... Id recommend one to anyone with a turbo car

with the turbo timer - each to their own. In my state they are illegal, plus I think its dodgy for a car to be sitting idling at a petrol station for 5mins !!! (no name, tucked way up under steering wheel glued down tight, have no idea how to adjust it !!!)

[Ska]

Some ebc's have a boost guage in it, but unsure of if they have a "peak" setting, as you would want to hide it somewhere so you would have to get it out and then go for a drive with it put in a viewable spot so you can watch it and then put it all back again, seems like a big waste of time all over a $30 boost guage?

[loymclure]

by hidden i mean out of sight from people looking in windows or other people in my car. My idea was actually using the console inbetween the drivers seat and the passengers seat and having all my gizmo's in there so i can just lift up the consol lid and tweek while driving. its not a bad idea if you dont mind losing the space

Edited March 6, 2007 by loymclure

[Tangles]

yeah its a good idea

a lot of ppl put 3 guages in that spot (boost, oil pressure, oil temp?)

and then the timer in the glovebox or under the steering column

my glove box holds the safc2 and the sitc, locked as I dont need to see them. set and forget

an 'turned off' turbo timer resides way up under the steering column, cant even get it to unstick!

the coin box above drivers knee holds the hybrid ebc

and the boost guage sits hard againt the door column above the indicator stalk

the only thing that makes my car look like a turbo is the boost guage (not that noticable) and the small fmic

mind you, that and being a stagea, is enough to snap necks

all comes down to budget.

also, depends on what you want. if you are after a 2in1 unit, then grab it and to hell with what other ppl think !

[loymclure]

OoOoOo i like you lol....

[yokotas13]

if you get an EBC

the only ones id reccomend are the Apexi AVCR, adn the Greddy profec B

do not get a profec B spec 2, they are horrrrible at holding boost.

I personally use an AVC-R. best boost controller on the market, hands down

[Ska]

Nah if money is now object go get a GReddy Profec E01

These are bloody AWESOME units! cost a fortune but, have lots of stuff bundled into it.

PRofec Boost Controllers

The ultimate in electronic boost control is incorporated in our multi-tasker, the PRofec e-01. Designed as a combination boost-controller, data display/logger and original e-manage programmer. The e-01 can provide superior boost response, increased boost, warning meter functions, 3 channel data-logging and access to programming features provided with the e-manage support tool. Even when used as a boost controller only, the e-01 has features to smooth out the boost curve. With both an auto and manual setting for both external and actuator style wastegates, the PRofec e-01 can alter its compact, high capacity solenoid valve via various RPM ranges. The large LCD screen with green electro-luminescent backlighting is easy to see. Other standard features include two preset boost levels, a timed over-take boost and compatibility with our Remote Switching System. The data display can view 3 different data channels simultaneously such as boost, RPM or any other channel inputted by the e-manage. The data can be logged up for 3 hours on an SD card while also giving warning set points and peak and hold values. There is also a non-PRofec e-01 version that is only used for e-manage programming and datalogging. (Some features require optional harness to be accessed.)

[yokotas13]

but htey are huge!!!

they only look good in 600 HP cars lol

[loymclure]

the screen looks a bit big any chance it would fit in my visor? like those dvd visors?

[loymclure]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...;hl=Profec+E-01

$660 is not to bad if i can hide it

[yokotas13]

yeah, try and hide that monster

I can find you a used AVCR for around 350-400