Defect N 2 Fines :(

[linedup33]

hey all just had the worst w/e...on friday nite i was coming back from chadstone just watched a movie with my misses n dropping her home, wen i was directed into the service lane. one police officer (on a full on power trip) got me outta the car, he checked my engine bay - found nothing wrong there, so he kept looking around the car, he saw my underbody neons (onli put on coz i got em for nuttin) n defected me for that, coz they apparently needa plastic protective cover - they do already. then he defected me for my head lights - he sed that all four lights need to come on instead of just 2 - i didnt make the headlights so i figure thats how they r. he then defected me for wires hanging under my dash which i tucked away wen he told me. he also wrote down on the defect that my handbrake needs to be adjusted - its just a stock handbrake. n he also gave me a fine for 118 bucks n 3 points for my licence plate not being fitted to the front of my car - i just had my kit put on on friday it self n they didnt want to drill into the front bar, coz theyll need to take it n redrill it again wen it gets painted, n that may crack the front bar. that was friday around midnite, its dated 20/01 on that one. on saturday during the day i was coming back from the pools just on my way home wen i got pulled over again - they booked me for the licence plate again - on the fine its dated the 20/01. is that possible to book me for the same thing on the same day?? they searched my car n slammed my doors freakin soo hard too.

on also on friday he sed its all in the rule book (while pointing to his car) so i asked if i can see the rule book where it says that n he sed he doesnt have it with him so i sed so y u putting to ur car wen u sed that n sed its in his booth so i asked again n he sed he doesnt have to show me shit. he also asked me to open my petrol tank so i did n asked what he's looking for in there n sed he doesnt have to tell me :S

has anyone had this sorta crap done to them n is there anything i can do?

this is reli unfair

[VB-]

yeh i was driven the opposite way and saw the crack down along there. theres not much you can do about it i dont think, they just went nuts after the riots, you might just have to cop this one on the chin

[Savage Bliss]

You have every right to know and ask what the officer is doing whilst around your car. You have every right to see/know the rules when referring to them. What you needed to do was get a badge number from both officers. People need to get in the habit of asking this. It's in your right to know!

As far as I know, you can't be fined twice for the same offence/defect. Someone feel free to correct me if not the case.

If I were you, I would contest it. Write a letter to the ombudsman, get legal advice if you have to. What they've done sounds very unjust and should be taken further. I wouldn't pay a cent before getting legal advice. Don't think you could contest the defect, that sounds legitimate, unfortunately. But the fines are another matter.

Best of luck mate.

[gt-t_r34]

thats crazy shit, im runnin out to my car to tuck my wires under my dash up!

unlucky mate!

[linedup33]

ye i asked for his badge number n him n his mate come right up to my face n told me to go stand next my car...n they also took a photo of my car...the leader paper was there too, i hope they dun put me n there coz like my nanna read thats

[Savage Bliss]

ye i asked for his badge number n him n his mate come right up to my face n told me to go stand next my car...n they also took a photo of my car...the leader paper was there too, i hope they dun put me n there coz like my nanna read thats

And they didn't give it to you?

Report it!

[Pax-Ottomanica]

See man... South-Eastern suburbs is poo!!

YOU WILL NEVER RECEIVE ANY OF THIS CRAP FROM ANY COPS AROUND NORTHERN SUBURBS!

[123456]

lies! i live in northern and there all a bunch of asses to me. Must just be because of the way i look or something. My cars never defectable, but they're always so rude.. a while ago they searched my car, without even asking me, pulled the trims off the sides of my doors and threw everything out of my boot on the ground.. they wouldnt give me badge numbers either but i think they were from some drug related thing.. dacked my mate on the roadside and put there hands around his boxers to.. lol, least it was a chick cop..

[ocean]

See man... South-Eastern suburbs is poo!!

YOU WILL NEVER RECEIVE ANY OF THIS CRAP FROM ANY COPS AROUND NORTHERN SUBURBS!

yeah, right..

Eltham TMU is full of the biggest bunch of rude arseholes i have ever met. Took my license away and defected me while driving my little runabout car, i'm trying to do the right thing and not drive my "powerful and dangerous" car every day, and still get screwed.

[TracidTrax]

hey all just had the worst w/e...on friday nite i was coming back from chadstone just watched a movie with my misses n dropping her home, wen i was directed into the service lane. one police officer (on a full on power trip) got me outta the car, he checked my engine bay - found nothing wrong there, so he kept looking around the car, he saw my underbody neons (onli put on coz i got em for nuttin) n defected me for that, coz they apparently needa plastic protective cover - they do already. then he defected me for my head lights - he sed that all four lights need to come on instead of just 2 - i didnt make the headlights so i figure thats how they r. he then defected me for wires hanging under my dash which i tucked away wen he told me. he also wrote down on the defect that my handbrake needs to be adjusted - its just a stock handbrake. n he also gave me a fine for 118 bucks n 3 points for my licence plate not being fitted to the front of my car - i just had my kit put on on friday it self n they didnt want to drill into the front bar, coz theyll need to take it n redrill it again wen it gets painted, n that may crack the front bar. that was friday around midnite, its dated 20/01 on that one. on saturday during the day i was coming back from the pools just on my way home wen i got pulled over again - they booked me for the licence plate again - on the fine its dated the 20/01. is that possible to book me for the same thing on the same day?? they searched my car n slammed my doors freakin soo hard too.

on also on friday he sed its all in the rule book (while pointing to his car) so i asked if i can see the rule book where it says that n he sed he doesnt have it with him so i sed so y u putting to ur car wen u sed that n sed its in his booth so i asked again n he sed he doesnt have to show me shit. he also asked me to open my petrol tank so i did n asked what he's looking for in there n sed he doesnt have to tell me :S

has anyone had this sorta crap done to them n is there anything i can do?

this is reli unfair

where was this station set up? i saw one just up the road from noble maccas on friday night, is that the one?

also it would have been wise to put a front licence plate on after u got caught the 1st time

[frx026]

he saw my underbody neons (onli put on coz i got em for nuttin) n defected me for that, coz they apparently needa plastic protective cover - they do already.

then he defected me for my head lights - he sed that all four lights need to come on instead of just 2

he then defected me for wires hanging under my dash which i tucked away wen he told me.

he also wrote down on the defect that my handbrake needs to be adjusted - its just a stock handbrake.

n he also gave me a fine for 118 bucks n 3 points for my licence plate not being fitted to the front of my car

on saturday during the day i was coming back from the pools just on my way home wen i got pulled over again - they booked me for the licence plate again - on the fine its dated the 20/01.

is that possible to book me for the same thing on the same day?? they searched my car n slammed my doors freakin soo hard too.

Underbody neons can be used whilst driving, as long as they do not effect ground clearance, are installed with all connections and wiring in a safe manner with a seperate circuit and switch and they must also meet the adr for lighting, ie no red or blue neons, other colors are fine.

Your head lights are factory like this, obviously he had no idea.

wiring under dash that is loose or can interfere with the operation of the pedals is defectable

handbrake, well he has to find something else to fill the space on the defect and honestly every car could be defected because the officer beleives the handbrake to be unroadworthy, remember, they dont have to proove it, just assume it.

As for the number plate, yes you can be fined twice, regardless of body kit modifications etc.

ye i asked for his badge number n him n his mate come right up to my face n told me to go stand next my car...n they also took a photo of my car...the leader paper was there too, i hope they dun put me n there coz like my nanna read thats

Under Victorian Law tthe officers in question must give you, badge number, reporting station ( where they are from), current rank and superior officer's name. If they fail to do that they have broken the law.

You will find one of the officers name and numbers on your fines, then write to the office of police integrity about this, be specific in your complait, dont exagerate or manipulate the story. Also send a copy of the complaint to the station they are based from.

It may not help you at all with your double fine, but at least you can make it hard for them at promotion time in front of the police board.

As far as the double fine goes, dont ask for advice on a forum , you will get 100 wrong answers, go to a lawyer that sepcialises in traffic infringements and get factual information on where you stand.

[linedup33]

in both cases my number plate was in the front windscreen..they can see it there...it was on princess hwy, thats the onli way to go wen im going to my misses place.

[Savage Bliss]

Underbody neons can be used whilst driving, as long as they do not effect ground clearance, are installed with all connections and wiring in a safe manner with a seperate circuit and switch and they must also meet the adr for lighting, ie no red or blue neons, other colors are fine.

Your head lights are factory like this, obviously he had no idea.

wiring under dash that is loose or can interfere with the operation of the pedals is defectable

handbrake, well he has to find something else to fill the space on the defect and honestly every car could be defected because the officer beleives the handbrake to be unroadworthy, remember, they dont have to proove it, just assume it.

As for the number plate, yes you can be fined twice, regardless of body kit modifications etc.

Under Victorian Law tthe officers in question must give you, badge number, reporting station ( where they are from), current rank and superior officer's name. If they fail to do that they have broken the law.

You will find one of the officers name and numbers on your fines, then write to the office of police integrity about this, be specific in your complait, dont exagerate or manipulate the story. Also send a copy of the complaint to the station they are based from.

It may not help you at all with your double fine, but at least you can make it hard for them at promotion time in front of the police board.

As far as the double fine goes, dont ask for advice on a forum , you will get 100 wrong answers, go to a lawyer that sepcialises in traffic infringements and get factual information on where you stand.

Thanks Officer

[(B1) MR_fanny]

like frx026 said, throw some back at them, make a complaint, make it harder for him to get promoted, then get legal advice. if your gonna do something do it now id say, dont wait a week or so.

[frx026]

Thanks Officer

Please note, I am not a cop, have never been a cop, dont ever intead on being a cop and generally have the same lack of trust in them as everyone else.

I do however have a few senior contacts within TMU that are personal friends and I ask them stuff when I want to know.

Cheers

[linedup33]

Kewl, thanks mate, i will follow that up about the badge number, how do i write 2 the police integrity? The wires were hanging like about 4 or 5 cm from under the dash, not even touching my leg let alone the pedals. My car is high like a 4wd too n u cant even see 1 neon wire n there never on in the first place. Im pretty sure they just made all the rest up coz they couldnt find nefing wrong in my stock engine bay..ill write up a letter 2day n 2moz n will post bak the outcomes. Thanks dudes.

[Savage Bliss]

Remember, as stated get some legal advice before contesting the infringements.

Best of luck mate...

[Daz]

lol sounds like the same cop that i had, he was on a power trip and i was being nice till i found out he was just being a dick so i gave it back to him and then he seemed quite nice still got me for everything. Was there like a full set up near chaddy where they were directing all modified cars to a side street?

[khunjeng]

waiting for thread to be locked.

[Kaz200]

I have pink lights installed under the dash to light up the footwells.. I was told by a snr sgt that its fine to install them but they cant be on whilst driving. I think its the same for underbody neons.

PJ are you sure it's legal to have them on?

Oh and the only legal colour is green btw.