200sx S15 Bilstein, Whiteline, Eibach & Noltec Suspension

[sakobato]

Hi Gary,

I still haven't been able to contact you.

Perhaps you could PM me with another way to contact you?

Derek

[sakobato]

Still trying to contact you, Gary....

[irokin]

Has anyone had any contact from Gary?? I last heard from him was about a month ago. I don't mind waiting for quality but this is becoming a bit beyond...

[Sydneykid]

Hi All

Matt here

To Anyone who could not get through, I am now answering PMs and all questions for Gary the best I can. With the new business extremely busy, we have been flat out, however gary is off on Holidays to the USA next week for 5 weeks. This does not mean that sales will hault, as I will personally be looking after all sales and enquiries from this point on. For anyone with more technical questions, there are some I can assist with, but any that I can not will be forwarded to Gary.

So please, PM me (I will check the GB threads when possible, but PM is best - I will supply an email address and a phone number for me)

Cheers

Matt

[sakobato]

Still waiting for a reply 2 months after trying to contact Gary, and 2 weeks after PMing Matt.

My problem with the GB suspension still has not been addressed.

Has anyone been given contact details? Maybe you could PM them to me.

Thanks

[montys15]

Still waiting for a reply 2 months after trying to contact Gary, and 2 weeks after PMing Matt.

My problem with the GB suspension still has not been addressed.

Has anyone been given contact details? Maybe you could PM them to me.

Thanks

Just put a PM in myself. Fingers crossed its all still happening...

[montys15]

Hi All,

I have gone ahead with the Road kit. Looking at getting it installed professionally, got a quote from one of the listed recommended installers in Sydney of approx $1100. I felt that was very expensive. What has everyone else paid so far for the install?

Thanks in advance..

[JBird]

Hi All,

I have gone ahead with the Road kit. Looking at getting it installed professionally, got a quote from one of the listed recommended installers in Sydney of approx $1100. I felt that was very expensive. What has everyone else paid so far for the install?

Thanks in advance..

Heasman's right?

Where abouts in Sydney are you.

It is not overly hard to install yourself if you have sockets, jacks, spring compressor (about $30 from supercheap or you can be ghetto and use vice grips or something). About the only thing you can't do yourself (or it is recommended a professional do it) is press in the bushes into the arms and wheel alighnment.

Pressing in the bushes should not cost more than $200.

There is a "home" mechanic on nissan silvia.com 0 ask around on there.

Otherwise I know a good suspension place near the shire I can get the number of the place.

[montys15]

Heasman's right?

Where abouts in Sydney are you.

It is not overly hard to install yourself if you have sockets, jacks, spring compressor (about $30 from supercheap or you can be ghetto and use vice grips or something). About the only thing you can't do yourself (or it is recommended a professional do it) is press in the bushes into the arms and wheel alighnment.

Pressing in the bushes should not cost more than $200.

There is a "home" mechanic on nissan silvia.com 0 ask around on there.

Otherwise I know a good suspension place near the shire I can get the number of the place.

Thanks for your reply Jbird.

Heasman's might have been the one!!?

They made out to sound that it was going to take two days to install, I ran them through the kit and the price went through the roof, yet they told me they install the kit all the time???? So if they installed the kit all the time they would know how long it would take and how much it has cost other s15 owners. Felt like I wasn't talking to the right person. I am sure they do a top notch job, I just don't want to pay that much when I hear others have paid half that.

I have found someone local to me (Ryde area) and I am quite sure, with a mates help, that we can do most of it ourselves.

Appreciate your offer of help and advice, will let you know how I get on...

Still haven't heard back from Matt yet since I put the money through... hope it all has been ordered! Very keen to get it put in...

Edited October 22, 2007 by montys15

[Sydneykid]

Yes Monty, I ordered the kit....

The hardest bits are the front struts - as I said, I would do it here if that was not such a screw around. I can do the bushes, I have a press, but not the patience required for the strut legs

[montys15]

Yes Monty, I ordered the kit....

The hardest bits are the front struts - as I said, I would do it here if that was not such a screw around. I can do the bushes, I have a press, but not the patience required for the strut legs

All good Matt, no probs at all. Thanks for ordering the Kit so quickly...

[montys15]

Hi Matt, any news on the swaybars?

Cheers...

[montys15]

Hi Gary/Matt/All,

looking for some help on a recent Road kit installation. Was installed by a very reputable suspension shop.

1. Appears the rear sub-frame alignment kit doesn't fit - p/n KCA349

2. Front Camber pins do not fit p/n KCA414

3. Rear Camber fit doesn't fit KCA347 - Was told it was not needed anyway because camber is already has a suitable setting

4. Extra set of bump stops sold but not needed

Now the last part and the worst

4. When I go over bumps, speed humps, it sounds like the spring seat or the springs are moving around. Makes a clicking noise. The guys pulled the rear end in and out 3 times, couldn't get to the bottom of it...

any ideas anyone??? Called Matt and his phone either went flat or he turned it off!

Thanks in advance...

[Sydneykid]

Hi Gary/Matt/All,

looking for some help on a recent Road kit installation. Was installed by a very reputable suspension shop.

1. Appears the rear sub-frame alignment kit doesn't fit - p/n KCA349

2. Front Camber pins do not fit p/n KCA414

3. Rear Camber fit doesn't fit KCA347 - Was told it was not needed anyway because camber is already has a suitable setting

4. Extra set of bump stops sold but not needed

Now the last part and the worst

4. When I go over bumps, speed humps, it sounds like the spring seat or the springs are moving around. Makes a clicking noise. The guys pulled the rear end in and out 3 times, couldn't get to the bottom of it...

any ideas anyone??? Called Matt and his phone either went flat or he turned it off!

Thanks in advance...

Hi Carl

Unfortunately my phone died in the ass on Saturday

1. Well, unless Whiteline have supplied the wrong parts in the kit, KCA349 is the correct part number, and we've sold plenty of them for S15s. I suggest either the bushes are wrong (unlikely) in the right kit, or they didn't actually know what they were doing with the kit (not the first time). Simply put, it should fit, and that worries me a little, especially knowing who installed the rest of the kit.

2. Again, KCA414 is thwe right part number for an S15... as above

3. May not have been required technically, but should fit, again, as above, it is correct for the car

4. That was my fault... Mistake made by me

Issue 5

Worries me, because we haven't had this issue before. It has the same rear end as a skyline, so its not all that unique.

My opinion - spring seat upside down is a common one.... But without seeing it, I can't diagnose.

My whole opinion is basically as above - It sounds to me like they just simply haven't done many nissans, and we've not come across this many issues with the correct part number supplied. Either they couldn't work it out, or they had no idea, I don't know.

Solutions - I might just have to fix it myself, because the people who should have done this properly haven't, and that disappoints me.

And Carl, check email and call me please.

Cheers

Matt

[montys15]

Thanks Matt. Appreciate your response...

[Simonster]

Hi Gary/Matt

What's the latest on the S13 track kit, was it finished, I've been through the thread and there is no info?

Kind regards

Simon

[Sydneykid]

Hi Simonster

The S13kit is now fully functioning (on the most part)

It is basically the same as the S15 kit, Pricing below

Front Springs $144.00

Rear Springs $144.00

Front Bilstein Insert $561.00

Strut insert labour $109.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Front stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Rear stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Caster Kit $110.00

Front Camber pins $72.00

Rear Camber Kit $123.00

Rear Subframe alignment kit $105.00

Bump Stop & Dust Cover $102.00

Zero Freight $-

Sub Total $2,408.00

Less extra 5% $120.40

Total $2,287.60

Nissan 180 SX

S13 Road & Track Kit (Specify CA or SR)

Eibach Main Front Springs $250.00

Eibach Main Rear Springs $250.00

Eibach Tender/Helper Rear Springs $210.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Rear Bilstein Coil Over Conversion $220.00

Front Bilstein Insert $561.00

Strut insert labour $109.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Front stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Rear stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Caster Kit $110.00

Front Camber pins $72.00

Rear Camber Kit $123.00

Rear Subframe alignment kit $105.00

Bump Stop & Dust Cover $102.00

Rear Camber Kit $72.00

Sub Total $3,622.00

Less extra 5% $181.10

Total $3,440.90

[Simonster]

Thanks Matt or Gary,

Here is what Gary said to me back in March this year;

"So Gary, what changes would need to be made for the extra weight of the RB25 in the S13??

Cheers

Simon

Thanks for the wrap Simon. For the S13 with RB25 I would go for the Track Kit, but I will specify some slightly different spring and damper rates. Nothing major, just a little tweak......"

Sorry couple of short questions,

I am after the track kit

1. How much neg camber can be dialed in with the track kit? I currently have-3.2 its not enough, I need around -4.0 on the front?

2. Gary recommended a minor change to the damper and spring settings for my heavier RB25, is this still required with the track kit?

3. What size stabiliser bars are these- i have whiteline on my car already, the front is a version that fits around the RB25sump.

4. You seem to have listed rear camber kit twice on the "track kit" is this a typo?

5. i currently have tune agent adjustable castor rods front and on the rear, toe, thrust and camber pieces- would you suggest i keep these or ditch them and use your complete kit?

Kind regards

Simon

Hi Simonster

The S13kit is now fully functioning (on the most part)

It is basically the same as the S15 kit, Pricing below

Front Springs $144.00

Rear Springs $144.00

Front Bilstein Insert $561.00

Strut insert labour $109.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Front stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Rear stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Caster Kit $110.00

Front Camber pins $72.00

Rear Camber Kit $123.00

Rear Subframe alignment kit $105.00

Bump Stop & Dust Cover $102.00

Zero Freight $-

Sub Total $2,408.00

Less extra 5% $120.40

Total $2,287.60

Nissan 180 SX

S13 Road & Track Kit (Specify CA or SR)

Eibach Main Front Springs $250.00

Eibach Main Rear Springs $250.00

Eibach Tender/Helper Rear Springs $210.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Rear Bilstein Coil Over Conversion $220.00

Front Bilstein Insert $561.00

Strut insert labour $109.00

Rear Bilstein Shocks $500.00

Front stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Rear stabiliser bar Adj $219.00

Caster Kit $110.00

Front Camber pins $72.00

Rear Camber Kit $123.00

Rear Subframe alignment kit $105.00

Bump Stop & Dust Cover $102.00

Rear Camber Kit $72.00

Sub Total $3,622.00

Less extra 5% $181.10

Total $3,440.90

[Sydneykid]

Thanks Matt or Gary,

Here is what Gary said to me back in March this year;

"So Gary, what changes would need to be made for the extra weight of the RB25 in the S13??

Cheers

Simon

Thanks for the wrap Simon. For the S13 with RB25 I would go for the Track Kit, but I will specify some slightly different spring and damper rates. Nothing major, just a little tweak......"

Sorry couple of short questions,

I am after the track kit

1. How much neg camber can be dialed in with the track kit? I currently have-3.2 its not enough, I need around -4.0 on the front?

2. Gary recommended a minor change to the damper and spring settings for my heavier RB25, is this still required with the track kit?

3. What size stabiliser bars are these- i have whiteline on my car already, the front is a version that fits around the RB25sump.

4. You seem to have listed rear camber kit twice on the "track kit" is this a typo?

5. i currently have tune agent adjustable castor rods front and on the rear, toe, thrust and camber pieces- would you suggest i keep these or ditch them and use your complete kit?

Kind regards

Simon

Hi Simon

We can work with the RB25 in the S13, nothing major, we've done it before...

1. Something we haven't listed in the kit though is the Noltec low profile strut tops, which, combined with the camber kit, will add additional camber where required. 4.0 should be acheivable, but the question is why do you need so much negative camber, it will destroy tyres...

2. We'd go to a 5.5-6kg front spring and match the shocks appropriately, so allow $10 for revalving

3. Generally go a 27mm front, 24mm rear for drift or circuit, 22mm rear for street. We also have the appropriate bar to clear the sump. Brand is Selby Sway Bars, made in the old Whiteline premises (do the maths on that if you like). If you have already the right size, then they aren't required

4. It depends on how happy you are with the replacement arms - if the idea of servicing them, and having to replace the whole arm (more than likely) after 18-24mnths is fine with you, then keep them. Ball joints wear out, and japanese replacement arms don't generally have replacement joints unfortunately. But, if you are OK with their downsides, then they are perfectly fine.

Matt

[Sydneykid]

CHRISTMAS TRADING

We will be closed from the 21st December until 21st January.

I'm going on holidays, and all group buys will be held off until I return.

PLEASE try to not fill up the PM inbox before I return, and try to PM me after I get back so I can help you all out as soon as possible.

I will not empty the inbox during this time, nor will I answer any PMs.

Cheers

Matt