Cedric!

[coupe72001]

Ok, ok, I know my new toy is not technically a skyline at all, but anyone interested in this really early Datsun 6 is welcome to contact me through PM, or at [email protected].

It's an awesome '65 Cedric station wagon, 109bhp, j series in-line 6, 3 spd man, one of 3 know in aust, and by the time I'm done it'll eat my best mate's Toyota Crown wagon of the same era - and that's the important thing.

Naturally, if anyone has parts or info in relation to this rare beast you can be my new best friend.

Cheers, D

[Ghostrider]

Ok, ok, I know my new toy is not technically a skyline at all, but anyone interested in this really early Datsun 6 is welcome to contact me through PM, or at [email protected].

It's an awesome '65 Cedric station wagon, 109bhp, j series in-line 6, 3 spd man, one of 3 know in aust, and by the time I'm done it'll eat my best mate's Toyota Crown wagon of the same era - and that's the important thing.

Naturally, if anyone has parts or info in relation to this rare beast you can be my new best friend.

Cheers, D

What are your plans?

Maybe a VH41 in place of the J series, that should frighten the sh!t out of your mate, or maybe a VQ35, but for sheer sound and shock factor I would go with the V8.

And they aren't gas guzzlers as everyone likes to think, my 1UZ MX83 Cressida just returned 10.88L/100 overall for 2754km Sydney - Gold Coast & return. On short cruise mode runs, eg Palm Beach to Grafton it returned under 10L/100 and for a 4.0L 32V Quad Cam V8 I think it's amazing.

Cheers, D

[Jono_c210]

Any photos??

I'd love to see some.

It's always good to see someone with something different

[coupe72001]

Any photos??

I'd love to see some.

It's always good to see someone with something different

I'll post pics as soon as I get back to Melb and pick it up. It needs a bit of love and attention, so the first plan of attack will to get everything cleaned up and in good going order, then Ill start to assess what, if any modifications I'll make... although Im already having fantasies of lowering it and banging on a set of white-walls.

Apparently it is pretty rare. I only know of 3 others at this stage.

[coupe72001]

There she is... scruffy, but totally restorable! This model was penned by Pinninfarina of all people. It seats 8. There is a pop up dickie seat that faces out the rear window, or the rear seats all fold down into a massive flat area. The tailgate window is electric and it still works! Woo hoo! Woo hoo!

Anyone interested in a Datsun Fairlady convertible body shell and bits going cheap through the same seller should let me know. It'd make a great project too.

[Factory 5]

SCRUFFY??? mate it will buff out...

And what the hell is a J series! man it looks like it was pulled out of my grandads fishing boat! along with the battery (Look at the size of it!!!)

is it powered by the battery, and the engine to charge it up??? (joke!)

It would be a great project... red/white leather interior, white wall tyres,polished chrome everywhere,chopped springs... if it were mine i would chuck in a L series, (cos there are stacks of em around) but the sump configuration would be interesting!

goodonya!

[66yostagea]

Luverly! All that chrome and a column change. And no brake booster or power steering. Simplicity wins out allthe time.

[Ghostrider]

I remember them! we used to have to use Kiwi Glint to get the protective coating off the chrome when we detailed 'em.

[Jono_c210]

wow, doesnt look like its in too bad condition.

what work needs doing to it to get in on the road?

any huge plans for it?

would probably look quite nice just cleaned up alot and with white walls.

[Ghostrider]

They didn't come with white wall tires NEW so why do it now.

Get a VQ41 into it and have some fun. lol

Cheers, D

[coupe72001]

Thanks for the interest all. Frustratingly I still havent picked up the car yet. This week the former owner will be in town to clean his crap out of the car and to hand over all the bits and pieces from his house.

At this point I know the car will need:

a muffler

some rubbery bits under the car

a tune up

rego and RWC

carpet

and lots of love and attention to get it looking like a car again, especially that scrape down the rear door...

Being the world's crudest mechanic, a car this simple has real appeal for me. As for the mods... First priority will be to get her going as is... but there is a jet black VW wagon running around where I live with the whitewalls, venetians and sitting on its guts that does look pretty sexy. Worse still my Crown-driving mate has just invested in a late-model supra engine for his 72 coupe. Maybe I am going to need the VQ41 after all lol!

[aarc240]

It's an awesome '65 Cedric station wagon, 109bhp, j series in-line 6, 3 spd man, one of 3 know in aust, and by the time I'm done it'll eat my best mate's Toyota Crown wagon of the same era - and that's the important thing.

That 109bhp was achieved with a REALLY restrictive exhaust and a puny carb.

Install a big bore exhaust from the manifold back.

Adapt a better carb (I think these were a single barrel in which case a 6 cyl h Holden unit would be pretty good).

Remove the engine fan and go electric.

Fit a GOOD ignition upgrade (the Silicon Chip HEI kit available from Jaycar, Dick Smiths etc is plenty good for this car)

I would estimate as much as 30hp could be found just with these alone so 109bhp would actually be horses instead of the ponies they measured things with back then. That should fix up the Toyota!!

[coupe72001]

Thanks so much for the tips! I have to say that the things you have suggested are more realistic for me in terms of my slightly sorry-looking budget (stupid credit card!)

I hear what you are saying about the carb, the "cedric special" of the same year was a twin-carb model churning out 123bhp! I have a reco'd single carb from my old L24, but am not sure if it could be adapted to the Cedric manifold without hurting my feelings.

[Ghostrider]

Thanks for the interest all. Frustratingly I still havent picked up the car yet. This week the former owner will be in town to clean his crap out of the car and to hand over all the bits and pieces from his house.

At this point I know the car will need:

a muffler

some rubbery bits under the car

a tune up

rego and RWC

carpet

and lots of love and attention to get it looking like a car again, especially that scrape down the rear door...

Being the world's crudest mechanic, a car this simple has real appeal for me. As for the mods... First priority will be to get her going as is... but there is a jet black VW wagon running around where I live with the whitewalls, venetians and sitting on its guts that does look pretty sexy. Worse still my Crown-driving mate has just invested in a late-model supra engine for his 72 coupe. Maybe I am going to need the VQ41 after all lol!

I only suggested the 41 because the 45 wouldn't fit.

But for my money, if it was mine i would research it for a while, a good week on the net, find out the biggest and best that would look stock but give it some grunt.

Remember pre 76 had no ADR's so the sky is really the limit.

A good set of headers, with a decent exhaust system, maybe a webber, like the 40mm twin down draught IDE's, about 9:1 comp, see someone about a cam maybe, any luminition type (optical) electronic ignition and you would have a very nice vehicle.

BUT! If you want an out & out BEAST, VQ41 would be my go.

Cheers, D

[Ghostrider]

Is it a 31 or P130 model?

[coupe72001]

Thanks again D. I havent had much luck on the web, but have contacted the owners club in QLD. Am waiting for a reply.

It's a 130. You can pick it by the J series 6, tail-lights, hubcaps, dash fascia (sp?) and the slightly Italian body shape.

Just quietly I spent ages on the Planet Cedric website trying to tell the damn things apart! The range of very similar looking models from 62 to 66 huge! Deluxe, standard, special, super, wagon, VAN! 4's, 6's, 30, 31, 130... eek!

[Ghostrider]

Thanks again D. I havent had much luck on the web, but have contacted the owners club in QLD. Am waiting for a reply.

It's a 130. You can pick it by the J series 6, tail-lights, hubcaps, dash fascia (sp?) and the slightly Italian body shape.

Just quietly I spent ages on the Planet Cedric website trying to tell the damn things apart! The range of very similar looking models from 62 to 66 huge! Deluxe, standard, special, super, wagon, VAN! 4's, 6's, 30, 31, 130... eek!

What I just found was P130 came out with L20, L24 engines as well, so that's what I would be doing.

L20/24/28??? nobody is going to know. 65 -71 L20 twin carbs.

You can probably get 240Z twin carb manifolds still if you look hard enough. Maybe webber manifolds too depending how much of a beast Vs classic you want.

[Ghostrider]

Item number: 190080906333

Twin SU type manifold on ebay.com.au suit L6 Nissan

[coupe72001]

That is a golden nugget of information, Im almost afraid to ask how you come to know these things... Arrrgh! And to think I sold my original stock L24 on the cheap!

Honestly, I have no big objections to going to a twin carb L series, even the webbers are a great period mod, but I kinda like the idea of being the only kid on my block with a warm J series engine, even if it isn't the modder's choice.

Still, cant help wondering if the L series engine would marry the J series box without too much grief... where's my tape measure...

[Ghostrider]

That is a golden nugget of information, Im almost afraid to ask how you come to know these things... Arrrgh! And to think I sold my original stock L24 on the cheap!

Honestly, I have no big objections to going to a twin carb L series, even the webbers are a great period mod, but I kinda like the idea of being the only kid on my block with a warm J series engine, even if it isn't the modder's choice.

Still, cant help wondering if the L series engine would marry the J series box without too much grief... where's my tape measure...

Problem with the J series is I can't find any info on them, neither can I get info on the 2900 K series.

If your going to do a big J series it's going to be a fair bit of hit and miss.

Maybe, you can do as I am. I'm keeping everything from my PNV, original engine, lights, not suspension as it was stuffed, but bonnet etc etc etc so if need be it can be put back to near original, but for me it will be a bit of a beast.

If your going to blow away your mate your going to need more than a J series.

Cheers, D