The Next Ecu To Dominate The Sau Community?

[insu]

If and when I go for an aftermarket computer, i'd probably either go for a:

2nd hand power fc

or

Wolf V500. Although I think it will cost a fair bit more for the wolf.

[psybic]

eManage and other piggy backs are limited by design. You can only 'fool' the stock ECU so much by the time you throw n bigger injectors, turbo etc. Good for light to mild upgrades though.

Its not like an SAFC though. You don't just fool one input, being AFM in the SAFC.

The emanage actually has outputs directly to the injectors and ignition from my understanding. This gives you full control, not an indirect control.

[pear]

Guys,

thanks for your comments and info! keep them coming!!

Paul, if I could find a 2nd hand PFC for a good price, yes I'd probably go for it - been checking sidewise/yahoo on a regular basis but for a R34, there isn't much.

ALSO, the old supply/demand – value for money, the price of a 2nd hand PFC has gone up. About the same as a NEW e-manage Ultimate (with warranty, newer technology, laptop connection, etc)

As per my original post, I’m not going for the top end (Haltech, Motec, etc). The budget will be $2000 max (that’s installed & tuned).

As for the long term plans for the car – I can’t see me doing any major mods. Knowing the ecu has some flexibility/room for growth is important – looks like the e-manage has that.

Yes, I can see the ‘Tuner’ playing a major role in all of this…I know some ECUs like HSK don’t have any support up her in QLD. Not sure about Wolf and a few of the others.

Dan, I’m keen to have a chat about your ROM option. Brisbane tuners that will support this, etc. Maybe when I pickup that TCS device (*free plug*), we can have a chat.

Michael, thanks for the info - I have seen this before, but as a noob, I'm still figuring out all the details 

I think I’m looking more for the Pros & Cons or some type of side by side comparisons between the leading ECUs

Pros/Conc like – Piggyback vs replacing the stock ECU.

People seem to think the piggyback idea is bad, but is this based on the NEW functionality found in the e-manage Ultimate?

Thanks again!

[N I B]

Still a very limited product for the more basic end of town.I tune a few these days and its easy to find its limit.Haltech Inteceptor is much like the Emanage but i find it a better system but its pushing plug and play money.Closed loop also becomes a problem with big mods and these 2 benders,Sometimes even having to unplug the Oxy sensor and thats really not on for our road cars.

[paulr33]

i stll reckon the PFC will win hands down

[CEF11E]

There are a few R34's that have had an R32 ecu wired in insted of the R34 ecu. this is due to the tunability of the factory R32 ecu.

you can pick one up for $100 have it socketed for $30 and wired into your car for around $200 and you can even have nissan consult software checking everything and outputting it to a laptop for you.

then any have to do is pay someone to tune it.

There is one downside... VCT can not be controlled by an R32 ecu so you would need an aftermarket controller.

includng a controller you could have it in, tuned and done for around $1000

good value IMO...

[msnismo]

If I didn't already get my hands on a PFC I would of gone the emanage ultimate - although prolly biased as I have the Profec E-01 boost controller which acts the same as the PFC hand controller when connected to the emanage.

[N I B]

There are a few R34's that have had an R32 ecu wired in insted of the R34 ecu. this is due to the tunability of the factory R32 ecu.

you can pick one up for $100 have it socketed for $30 and wired into your car for around $200 and you can even have nissan consult software checking everything and outputting it to a laptop for you.

then any have to do is pay someone to tune it.

There is one downside... VCT can not be controlled by an R32 ecu so you would need an aftermarket controller.

includng a controller you could have it in, tuned and done for around $1000

good value IMO...

Easy fix,Use a Z32 ECU remapped,Problem solved.

[pear]

i stll reckon the PFC will win hands down

Paul, I'm sure you are right... but WHY?

what are the BIG differences that has the PFC 'hands down' over the eManager Ultimate?

Still a very limited product for the more basic end of town.I tune a few these days and its easy to find its limit.Haltech Inteceptor is much like the Emanage but i find it a better system but its pushing plug and play money.Closed loop also becomes a problem with big mods and these 2 benders,Sometimes even having to unplug the Oxy sensor and thats really not on for our road cars.

NIB, thanks for your comments... I think I am sitting at the low to mid end of town... I can't see my mods ever going too out of control.

Have you (or anyone) found that the eManage Ultimate is better to work with than the older 'BLUE'?

From what I could see, there seems to be a lot of new features, but maybe still very basic??

[N I B]

Is better to use and fine for your car if you dont change your mind,Easy to move on later tho as they will fit anything.

[pear]

Guys, thanks again for all the comments!

I was worried I'm get slammed with the 'do a sreach...' - wasn't expecting this many posts!

[32vspecII]

r33 powerfc

almost 1800$ !!!

sheesh!

i hope nothing happens to the 3 i have getting posted , all procured under 1200$

[pear]

r33 powerfc

almost 1800$ !!!

sheesh!

i hope nothing happens to the 3 i have getting posted , all procured under 1200$

wow, that's huge...

There's way more r33 gtst units in circulation.

My chances of getting a 34 gtt version isn't looking good

[32vspecII]

the wnner of that was a bit over enthusiastic

i got 2x 33 and 1x34 all under 1200$ in the last week

[Zas)-(]

hmmmmmmm its pretty bleak...... but i've talked to one tuner that says shouldnt be much a problem tuning the emanage ultimate and still think it'd be capable of handling the mods and power that people want, im just after round 250 rwk...

all of us have other shit to deal with bills, naggin gf, beer... so money has to be well spent...

[paulr33]

wonder how hard it is to adapt a BNR33 pfc to ECR33

that would be ace, with working airtemp

[paulr33]

actually in the interests of the community i think ill spend some time on it

it cant be too hard surely?

[msnismo]

r33 powerfc

almost 1800$ !!!

sheesh!

i hope nothing happens to the 3 i have getting posted , all procured under 1200$

Sh!te... perhaps I should auction mine off and get the emanage ultimate...

[pear]

the wnner of that was a bit over enthusiastic

i got 2x 33 and 1x34 all under 1200$ in the last week

If you find an ER34 model for a good price, please let me know

were your 3 units new or 2nd hand?

all of us have other shit to deal with bills, naggin gf, beer... so money has to be well spent...

^^^^^what he said

actually in the interests of the community i think ill spend some time on it

it cant be too hard surely?

Good luck paul - keep us posted!

[Betz]

motec when I build my engine, till then I'll just keep winding up the boost