The Next Ecu To Dominate The Sau Community?

[SS8_Gohan]

rough price for component + install + tune?

[STATUS]

rough price for component + install + tune?

GTT is wire in as there is not enough volume even in japan to warrant manufacturing the R34 plug, i have done 3 or 4 including a non turbo R34 with GT-RS etc. R34 and NEO stagea require an ignition module that plugs in side the EMU. Rumors of burnt coils on R34 are because people dont read the instructions and forget to install this adapter.

you need EMU, wiring harness, ignition adapter (internal plug in module for R34/ WGN34)

from any of the dealers the unit should be no more than $1000-1100 and $1500-1700 drive away depending on your tuner. these i would consider worst case pricing too.

Edited March 19, 2007 by URAS

[Haines]

Trent you have mail

[SS8_Gohan]

nice, nice... now tell me they're making an 18" version of Uras NS-01 and i'll be sold on EMU

[STATUS]

nice, nice... now tell me they're making an 18" version of Uras NS-01 and i'll be sold on EMU

haha NS02 coming soon....... waiting on specs atm. News only came through on friday.

[STATUS]

Trent you have mail

i will answer it soon as i get to work.

[SS8_Gohan]

oh so there is an 18" version coming??????????????????

[Memph]

Ill put in my vote for Microtech

Ive been running an LT-8s in my R32 (RB25) for about 18months and haven't had a problem.

Power is good, economy isnt bad, Its not awesome but no where enar as shit as people make it out to be.

Only dis advantage really is the fact that it isnt plug and play, but ocne its in who cares

[Sydneykid]

The emanage blue maybe but the ULTIMATE will do everything the PFC will and more, ignition cut instead of fuel, D-jetro, nos control, water spray, on the fly map switching, A/f auto tune via wide band input, knock monitoring, full datalogging, launch control, programable outputs (x2) etc

I can confidently tune one of these to be anywhere near as good as any PFC, cats car is a perfect example.

The EMANAGE ULTIMATE got a bad rap because workshops of dubious ability wire them up wrong. (i do alot of GREDDY's australian tech support for them as i am thier largest acc holder and 99.9% is installer fault) the new plug and play harness's make it just as easy as a PFC to fit and they are super easy to tune.... as a bonus it eaven comes with the software to datalog/tune and so forth. this means you are not tied to one tuner like you would be with a remap.

i am more than happy to answer any emanage enquiries regardless of place of purchase on my email [email protected]

Please dont see this as a greddy plug as i also import sell and tune many a PFC, well as much of them as i can get my hands on lol (still have R34 GTR, S13 all, S14 all, JZZ30 and CA18...no R33 anymore)

cheers Trent

Hi Trent, thanks for the EManage update, it fills in a whole pile of gaps. From a tuners perspective I read a lot of what it will do, but very little about what it won't do. For example;

1. Does it handle ignition retard and cut for autos?

2. Is there a limit to the injector size?

3. What parts of the standard ECU control does it leave untouched?

4. Does it have a boost control option?

5. Does it allow for inlet air temp compensation?

6. How is the cold start and run tuning?

7. Anything else that you can think of that you would like it to have or that a Power FC has?

cheers

[666DAN]

Definately is a limit on injectors size GReddy recommend no bigger than 150% due to the rescaling of the AFM voltage essentially running too much ignition timing as the map scale is way out of whack.

Burnt coils were a function of the dwell voltage on the e-manage blue, read the instructions all day and it wouldn't explain that fact, RX8's suffer the same fate...the ultimate is a different kettle of fish apparently, anyone burning coils with this may be installing wrong.

Either way I would still recommend the zeners as it regulates the trigger voltage down to a Nissan friendly 1.3v...the e-manage didn't have the luxury of altering that low.

[Minko]

Another one for Link here, very happy with it :sorcerer:

[STATUS]

Hi Trent, thanks for the EManage update, it fills in a whole pile of gaps. From a tuners perspective I read a lot of what it will do, but very little about what it won't do. For example;

1. Does it handle ignition retard and cut for autos?

2. Is there a limit to the injector size?

3. What parts of the standard ECU control does it leave untouched?

4. Does it have a boost control option?

5. Does it allow for inlet air temp compensation?

6. How is the cold start and run tuning?

7. Anything else that you can think of that you would like it to have or that a Power FC has?

cheers

I will post up screen shots tonight if that helps? it would help with my descriptions as it will show what the scales are and the adjustment points. There is more in the EMU than i would ever use.

1. Does it handle ignition retard and cut for auto?

Yes

2. Is there a limit to the injector size?

Blue version yes, but i have not found a point on the EMU that is too large ie running 850's on sr's and 720cc's on 26's etc are no stress, i have just done a 2jz with 1000cc but it is not turn key yet, it will be a good test expected 500-680rwkw

3. What parts of the standard ECU control does it leave untouched?

i will have to sit down and ponder that for a while because the more i play the more i find.

4. Does it have a boost control option?

No... soonish i hear full colour lcd possibility.

5. Does it allow for inlet air temp compensation?

Yes There is a inlet temp correction map

6. How is the cold start and run tuning?

Yes There is a water temp correction map

7. Anything else that you can think of that you would like it to have or that a Power FC has?

i use the data sampling option a fair bit which allows you to log the afm's then cut and paste these values into the airflow output map, this then allows you to remove the afm and fine tune via your normal process.

It has a timing offset set function for the datalogger.

its also has a speed correction map also.

launch control that actually works unlike my datalogit system lol but i built my bridge years ago

[Sydneykid]

I will post up screen shots tonight if that helps? it would help with my descriptions as it will show what the scales are and the adjustment points. There is more in the EMU than i would ever use.

1. Does it handle ignition retard and cut for auto?

Yes

2. Is there a limit to the injector size?

Blue version yes, but i have not found a point on the EMU that is too large ie running 850's on sr's and 720cc's on 26's etc are no stress, i have just done a 2jz with 1000cc but it is not turn key yet, it will be a good test expected 500-680rwkw

3. What parts of the standard ECU control does it leave untouched?

i will have to sit down and ponder that for a while because the more i play the more i find.

4. Does it have a boost control option?

No... soonish i hear full colour lcd possibility.

5. Does it allow for inlet air temp compensation?

Yes There is a inlet temp correction map

6. How is the cold start and run tuning?

Yes There is a water temp correction map

7. Anything else that you can think of that you would like it to have or that a Power FC has?

i use the data sampling option a fair bit which allows you to log the afm's then cut and paste these values into the airflow output map, this then allows you to remove the afm and fine tune via your normal process.

It has a timing offset set function for the datalogger.

its also has a speed correction map also.

launch control that actually works unlike my datalogit system lol but i built my bridge years ago

Thanks for that, a few follow ups;

#1 How?

#3 Why does it need the standard ECU at all?

cheers

[STATUS]

Thanks for that, a few follow ups;

#1 How?

#3 Why does it need the standard ECU at all?

cheers

i will post a screen shot tonight, i have never needed to use it yet and cause i get hit in the head alot i cant even remmeber its input / output requirements etc But iam 100% it does it cause i remmember going hey thats handy... then never using it

should i start another FAQ thread later tonight as this is becoming to specific? we can then use it to diagnose customer issues also?

thread a work in progress http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=161460

Edited March 22, 2007 by URAS

[Natetune]

I'm about to put an Adaptronic full replacement ECU in my R33 gts-t. It seems to be the go & is plug and play and quite reasonably priced.

I'll let you know how it is.

[Haines]

Im new to the greddy emanage ultimate

but so far the only prob I have come across is

where to put all the wires LOL

I have a Field One Touch Connector that mines wired into (makes it plug and play)

and it takes up lots of room

but Dan tells me that they can all be stuffed in behind the original ECU

I havent done this yet because im waiting to get it tuned then ill install it properly

and please start a FAQ thread trent

I have questions for you

I have emailed you again mate hopefully the last of my questions lol

Edited March 20, 2007 by Haines

[LTHLRB]

Emanage ultimates seem very good and iv personally seen some of trents work and tuning... yes.. he does know how to tune.. and is very very VERY good at it, recomend him to anyone, aswell as Rob from creatd for power fcs...

Trent if rob cant find me a power fc ill be speaking to you about an emanage ultimate for my r33.

cheers. Phill

[captinsane]

we're just refibreglassing a mates kick panel to take care of the size issues...

[Cubes]

Emanage ultimates seem very good and iv personally seen some of trents work and tuning... yes.. he does know how to tune.. and is very very VERY good at it, recomend him to anyone, aswell as Rob from creatd for power fcs...

Trent if rob cant find me a power fc ill be speaking to you about an emanage ultimate for my r33.

cheers. Phill

you could always modify an rb26 pfc.

[LTHLRB]

seriously?? how much more will it cost ontop of a normal pfc?