Adriano Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just get the right pistons, or you could deck the head heaps. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3391234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 just get the cp 9:1 pistons...easy town right there....might as well get a set of rods as well from brad. Then you wont blow any bottom ends Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3391255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deant1 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 which pistons allow the 9.1 ratio? are they aftermarket items and forged or is it out of a 25na or 25t? wasn't gonna bother with touching the bottom but i will if i have to. 8.3 comp means i have too.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3393264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver gts-t Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 just get the cp 9:1 pistons...easy town right there....might as well get a set of rods as well from brad. Then you wont blow any bottom ends smile.gif Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3394178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Talk to Spoolup (Brad) for the pistons and rods. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3394255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 anyone wanting to offload their rb30 SOHC cam covers let me know, just the cam/rocker covers prefferably in sydney area Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3394690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_speedfreak_r Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 9:1 is huge. I was told not to go anymore than 8.5:1 and min 8:1. In saying that im planning on running 20-25 pound of boost tho Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Two schools of approach. Big boost means low CR as a general rule. High CR then you stay low boost but get off boost response. Fairly simple but off boost I get wheelspin in second out of corners. Haven't seen knock over 12 on the logger with 7 psi and fooling around with the tune and timing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla33 Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Question... Using Autronic SM4 in my 33 GTSt (not fitted yet). Looking at my old computer/loom, what needs to stay??? Does the std ecu have to stay connected for a/c, dash, any other ancilleries or can I just cut the loom out all together? I seem to have other wires coming from my std loom going to wiper motor (and some other little orange box back there) not to mention that wires head back from the loom towards the fuse box etc. Anyone else have any of these issues when changing computers?? Cheers for any ideas. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Two schools of approach. Big boost means low CR as a general rule. High CR then you stay low boost but get off boost response. Fairly simple but off boost I get wheelspin in second out of corners. Haven't seen knock over 12 on the logger with 7 psi and fooling around with the tune and timing. What does one classify as 'big boost'? Theres 2 people i know of that are running on or very close to 9:1 and 22+psi boost. (michael & noel). Maybe gone are the days when that rule of thumb doesnt really apply anymore? Food for thought... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEF11E Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 you will find they will be running very little timing. 9:1 is great for a street engine running less than 18psi 8.5:1 is good if you plan on running anything over that 8:1 is really a bit low for a street driven car I think with high CR and high boost you are walking a much finer line. water/methanol injection can be used to supress detonation whilst keeping a nice timing map. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Good points. A decent tuner will work with what he has and extract the maximum from that. Used to be anything over about 20 psi was considered a high boost situation, but that is going up. Ultimately it is all relative to peak combustion pressures and mean effective pressures (MEP) in the cylinders to calculate the available torque and power. A classic example is Honda tuners throwing a low pressure turbo on a stock motor and then using that to improve power. Still has good low down, and builds a whack of power up through the rev range. Still a Honda though 9:1 is still a decently high compression too. Consider the big lump of 5.4L V8 in my BA ute. Only runs 9.5:1 CR and is cammed for reasonable high rpm power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 And not to forget we/some have better fuels available to them. VPower Racing 100ron. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3398992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 or use toluene 50/50 mix with that shell 100 You dont always need water/meth injection to keep det down, though it does work well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3399437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS4WD Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 A MASSIVE cheers to everyone that helped put together the RB30DE .PDF file! Its taken me a while to find it (after reading 50 pages of this thread) but its all been worth while! If i bump into the boys who put it together.. Ill have to buy them a beer!.. or 20! Thanks again fellas! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3401382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 another note...high compression and big boost can also equal a blown headgasket lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3402097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolup Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 What gasket were you using ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3402218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliksem Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Just finished the oil drain fo turbo and head, thought I'd post it up if anyone needed some ideas for their conversion Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3402833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_speedfreak_r Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 cosmetic gasket and arp head studs all da way. looks good mintr33 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3402963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[200] Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Can someone recommend me a good sump to use? I was looking at the Hi Energy Pro eliminator... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/281/#findComment-3403085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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