Emission Testing Modified Skyline's

[Cubes]

Duncan did you notice if they pad locked it?

Here in Adelaide all the E85 pumps are pad locked. Will be re-tuning soon.

[DRIFTER]

hopefully tuning my car on this in the next week.

[discopotato03]

The last time I bought some (in fuel containers) that pump wasn't locked .

The first time I went there they came running out thinking I didn't know what it was but once you tell them that you take full responsibility for using it theres no probs .

Recently I changed the fuel pump and hoses in my mid 80's flat four MON/RON test engine just to be sure .

I don't see too many probs with E85 and probes or cats from a longevity point of view , I haven't read anything that gave cause for concern . My father was a lab tech and said it (Eth) burns away to C02 and H20 .

The car to watch is that flex fueled Commode Door - if it ever gets into production .

I don't like your chances of getting the EPA/RTA to waive the converter even if the numbers come up right , I reckon they'll always argue that someone somewhere will stick ULP in (by accident or design) and they won't wear that .

Until they can come up with a way of forcing people to use E85 only in a car tuned specifically to run it I think legally the cat will have to stay .

My biggest issue with high ethanol content fuel is the water absorption one , as I said SK once mentioned an inline seperator of some sort and I really think we need to investigate that one .

Another significant one is ethanols higher vapor pressure and what it could do to the evaporative gear cars have - charcol canisters . There must be a way around that one too .

Personally I'm going to wait until E85 becomes more available because I can't see the point in tuning a road car for something that is only available through one or maybe two pumps in Sydney - none close to me .

It would be interesting to try one of those plug in conversion kits floating around in the US but not sure if any are out here yet .

Cheers A .

[Guilt-Toy]

Okay then, for now i might keep the cat but i wont change it to the good compliance cat i used last time to pass the test, i will use the crappy high flow one that does not work as well when using this fuel. Surely it will still pass.

I am lucky because i can re-tune my car for cruise in probly around 10 minutes to get it running to the point where its driveable, then i can take it up to newcastle and chuck it on a dyno for a few hours and do the rest. I will only tune it to 18psi and about 300rwkw for the load side.

Will also put the 5gas on and do a dummy IM240 test when on the dyno and will post results.

This fuel might be a easy way out of passing the emissions test! will do some testing next thursday night, i will fill up my tank with it and a 20 litre drum to use once i get to newcastle. once i run out il load the 98 maps back up untill i can get more e85.

Do you think the 044 pump will handle it OK ?

[Guilt-Toy]

I passed another car through the IM240 Emission's test today, this one was road tuned around a industrial area in cardiff and went on to pass the test the next day!

Goes to show if you build a car and tune it properly you can make your car legal and get it engineered.

This car has 300rwkw.

[ULOOOK]

And right now I cannot thank you enough. It was a mission but totally worth it in the end.

Cant wait to get it engineered so I can enjoy it now.

Thanks again Effy!

[PSI Parts]

So has anyone done the test with E85 yet?

[Guilt-Toy]

So has anyone done the test with E85 yet?

Yes. I have passed the test with E85 and with 98

[PSI Parts]

I might have missed it the results (although I thought I read all 5 pages), but I take it was a lot easier with E85 and what was the end deal whether or not the car would be required.

[Guilt-Toy]

I might have missed it the results (although I thought I read all 5 pages), but I take it was a lot easier with E85 and what was the end deal whether or not the car would be required.

read my e85 thread. info in there

[NewKleer]

how sure are we that they dont keep a record at all of cars that do it voluntarily and fail? e.g. if ive got a car thats currently engineered etc (not sure as to whether its engineered/passed for emissions), am i likely to get a letter in the mail that someone 'anonymously' tipped them off?

what was the booking procedure? is it just you book it and u go on a waiting list or whatever? no cost?

id like to see how good i can get the car in terms of compliance, but without returning everything to stock (given the point is to have a legal modified car, not one u swap parts on all the time).

(also the car im talking about is going to be under the 97-2003, which is THC (g/km): 0.26, NOx (g/km): 0.63, CO (g/km): 2.1, so it may be a bit harder/need more work to get it to pass)

[Guilt-Toy]

Rest assured, the RTA are only there to do the emissions testing. they do not care if you come on your own and fail. They are not here to police the laws they are there to provide the services to us so we can make our cars legal.

The police and EPA are the ones you need to worry about. if you get sent to do a IM240 test by police or EPA and you fail then yes you will have problems.

There is NO risk at all of ringing the RTA booking a test and failing. The guys at the RTA like it when they see people go there to try and pass to engineer there car without any defects because they have had all sorts of troubles with fully sick defected car owners getting angry at them when they don't pass because now their rego is going to get cancelled or they have to go and do the test again

They do not even care about the modifications to your car, they will not issue you with a defect if you have a screamer pipe or BOV at the time of the test, THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR!!!

They are there to put the car in the booth test it and move onto the next one.

I have said this many times. Please stop asking this question !!!!

how sure are we that they dont keep a record at all of cars that do it voluntarily and fail? e.g. if ive got a car thats currently engineered etc (not sure as to whether its engineered/passed for emissions), am i likely to get a letter in the mail that someone 'anonymously' tipped them off?

what was the booking procedure? is it just you book it and u go on a waiting list or whatever? no cost?

id like to see how good i can get the car in terms of compliance, but without returning everything to stock (given the point is to have a legal modified car, not one u swap parts on all the time).

(also the car im talking about is going to be under the 97-2003, which is THC (g/km): 0.26, NOx (g/km): 0.63, CO (g/km): 2.1, so it may be a bit harder/need more work to get it to pass)

[ali-turko]

is this possible to do it vic??

i know you cant just keep going to the epa using there there dyno to make you car legal like nsw

but is it possible to make you car comply to legal emission in vic with a modifed car??

[Guilt-Toy]

i believe this was talked about earlier in this thread.

READ

is this possible to do it vic??

i know you cant just keep going to the epa using there there dyno to make you car legal like nsw

but is it possible to make you car comply to legal emission in vic with a modifed car??

[rb2634datto]

hey is it the year of the car or the engine cause if it is the car you can put all your stuf in a datto and have the tune you want!!! [1969/75 no epa back then]

sorry to bump the thread but one day i want to do this to a 1200 coupe but unmodded one arent exactly a dime a dozen.

[R31Nismoid]

Emissions = engine in most cases.

However things like exhaust noise levels, depending on motor age etc, can vary.

Either way all emission controls must be inplace for the motor as you cannot go backwards in terms of motor (at least not in Vic anyway).

EG: You cant put a RB30E into a VN

other states vary so talk to your local engineer.

[Guilt-Toy]

in NSW you can put any engine in any car, the problem is that you have to pass the emissions test for whatever is the latest model.

example, if you have a datsun 1600, 1970's and you put a 2008 model R35 GTR engine you will need to pass emissions for 2008 standard.

If you put a old pushrod 1980 engine in a 1995 skyline you will need to pass emissions for the 1995 skyline, and doing that with a 1980 pushrod engine will be a big mission.

Speak to your engine before you take any of this as gospel, I could be wrong but this is what i was told.

[Trozzle]

Speak to your engine before you take any of this as gospel, I could be wrong but this is what i was told.

Sorry GT, I had to quote for win.

[rb2634datto]

so what ever is newer

Edited September 5, 2010 by rb2634datto

[rb2634datto]

so what ever is newer

i now its my post but

it just is a dream at the moment but dreams become reality if you try

[not talking about weird dreams with impossible stuff in them]