The Epa Thread/Roadworthy Thread

[larri]

If your running the standard boost and the standard ECU no boost controler why should the gt35 turbo effect the epa test aslong as the emssions are ok the turbo should pass right ??

[Phatboy]

R31 Nismoid, you're misunderstanding my question. I KNOW you can only have one intake mod (pods or FMIC).

My question was to Dogknight who said:

"Air pod - only okay if you dont have a front mount added on (GTR excepted)"

Why would the GTR be any different from any other car in terms of only having one intake mod?

Edited May 10, 2008 by Phatboy

[Phatboy]

StolenS15, I think that the exhaust is legal as apparently it was taken to Vicroads for an inspection and got passed a month ago.

To me, it sounds relatively quiet even when revving for some reason. Definitely quieter than a lot of the WRXs around. If it drove past, the noise wouldn't immediately make you think it's illegal. I guess time will tell.

[larri]

i heard a cat will decrease the db reading by 5 db but how much difference does it make on the emission reading? Dunno why EPA is so agro for aslong as it passes there emissions test shuldnt it be sweet?

[R31Nismoid]

R31 Nismoid, you're misunderstanding my question. I KNOW you can only have one intake mod (pods or FMIC).

My question was to Dogknight who said:

"Air pod - only okay if you dont have a front mount added on (GTR excepted)"

Why would the GTR be any different from any other car in terms of only having one intake mod?

*sigh* im not. Your misunderstanding what the letters on the screen are saying

He means the FMIC is OK on a GTR (the factory one) as thats how it comes from the factory.

SO PODS ARE OK if you have the STOCK INTERCOOLER

[R31Nismoid]

If your running the standard boost and the standard ECU no boost controler why should the gt35 turbo effect the epa test aslong as the emssions are ok the turbo should pass right ??

Seriously mate, can you ring the EPA and argue with them?

This is a help thread for users, not a thread to debate the rules.

If you wanna argue/debate the rules then take it up with the Gov't body concerned (in this case, EPA)

[dezz]

i heard a cat will decrease the db reading by 5 db but how much difference does it make on the emission reading? Dunno why EPA is so agro for aslong as it passes there emissions test shuldnt it be sweet?

I think you should read up on what exactly it is a catalytic converter does

[chris_r31]

for a quick fix chicken wire is ur best friend, fill the f*kn exzorst with it make sur its in tight as well, lol the look on the epa guys face when u blow out 3meters of chicken wire on the db machine will be funny..

ash can i have a front mount intercooler, an air box but also a top mounted 3540 on my gtr???

[larri]

i think having 3 cats and 3 resonaters and 1 oval muffler will fix the problem on the old 3 inch... Also what i understand from the thread is that we can have wastegates aslong as they are internal and standard right?

Edited May 11, 2008 by larri

[larri]

Phatboy u are allowed to have your original FMIC and pod becos your FMIC is standard.

[DogKnight]

R31 Nismoid, you're misunderstanding my question. I KNOW you can only have one intake mod (pods or FMIC).

My question was to Dogknight who said:

"Air pod - only okay if you dont have a front mount added on (GTR excepted)"

Why would the GTR be any different from any other car in terms of only having one intake mod?

As Ash mentioned. You can only have one additional air intake modification.

A GTR comes with a FMIC from the factory, so its legal to add pods and have the FMIC.

With a GTST it comes with a SMIC from the factory, so if you add a FMIC and Pods, you have two additional air intake mods.

But as always, read EPA guidelines and clarify with them. Lots of people drive cars that do not follow the guidelines. Do so at your own risk.

[R31Nismoid]

You cant change a GTR cooler from the factory one.

Just because the GTR comes with a FMIC stock, doesnt mean you can put another one in there.

Same as upgrading a R33 sidemount to a R34 sidemount. Its a change to the factory option

[DogKnight]

You cant change a GTR cooler from the factory one.

Just because the GTR comes with a FMIC stock, doesnt mean you can put another one in there.

Same as upgrading a R33 sidemount to a R34 sidemount. Its a change to the factory option

Thank you for the clarification. Word of mouth information always has to be taken with a grain of salt. Ill rectify my post.

[dezz]

Pretty sure I've read that you can change it...I don't have the exact wording handy, but it read something like:

An intercooler can be changed as long as the general position and dimensions are maintained...

having said that, you'd be quite stiff if you were done for a 34SMIC on a 33, or an aftermarket core on a GTR...

[R31Nismoid]

Read the EPA doco

"Intercoolers tha are larget than standard... are permitted only if no other changes to the intake system have been made. In other words, you may have a pod filter or modified/added intercooler, but not both"

I dont think it could be any more clear in all honesty

[larri]

Well you change it aslong as it is a upgrade which is factory standard. e.g if u got a gtr intercooler you can change it to a v-spec intercooler as long as it retains the factory fittings to it i.e sensors etc

Dezz ur right dude, i got a large FMIC but got the standard airbox and meter as soon as they saw the air box he just closed the bonnet back

Edited May 12, 2008 by larri

[R31Nismoid]

pity there is no difference

[larri]

As Ash mentioned. You can only have one additional air intake modification.

A GTR comes with a FMIC from the factory, so its legal to add pods and have the FMIC.

With a GTST it comes with a SMIC from the factory, so if you add a FMIC and Pods, you have two additional air intake mods.

But as always, read EPA guidelines and clarify with them. Lots of people drive cars that do not follow the guidelines. Do so at your own risk.

Well you dont need to have a pod on a GTS_T all you need is to modify the box and retain the meter thats what they what after all the meter as in original functioning way

Edited May 12, 2008 by larri

[stolen_s15]

This thread has shown an amazing inability by people to perform even the most basic reading comprehension. Bravo!

Oh and Larri you have alot of work ahead of you to get close to passing epa. It would prob be cheaper for you to buy a stock R33 in the same colour, order another rego sticker and change the plates over for a day.

[larri]

Well actually im just going to sell my engine in bits and pieces and just put back in the good old rb25 BUT i just been reading the epa article no where does it say you cannt put in a rb26 as long as it meets the same or more stringent requirements.

s_15 LOL who said that it would cost you that much... Do`nt know who charges you that much for a quick engine swap and a reswap later on. Hopefully you been saving alot if they are charging you this much.

i got 89.7 db backing off in the big rb26/30 woohooo thanks for your experience and information guys much appreciated. well i just put 2 cats in and 2 resonators and a big oval at DA back was sweetly done

Edited May 12, 2008 by larri