The Epa Thread/Roadworthy Thread

[R31Nismoid]

Not overtly cynical - Import, male driver - if you are in the wrong places at the wrong times expect to get a defect.

They can't notice turbos, so dont stress.

It's simple - you can make near on 400rwkw and it will only take 45mins to be "legal" (by swapping stock parts on), if you go about your modifications intelligently.

[Strick.]

Gday gents,

Have just moved to Vic, as my R32 is a track car this question relates to my Landcruiser.

How strict are roadworthy inspections on seeping oil? I have 2 leaks, one from the pinion seal and one from a powersteering hose. I have the parts to replace them however no shed or tools to do it as im staying in a hotel at the moment.

Was hoping to get the roadworthy done on the car before i go back to work so once iam at work i dont need to stuff around getting roadworthies in the week that i will have left on the rego!

Advice please!

[Miguelone]

Both fairly straightforward jobs. Really depends how fussy workshop is and how bad the leaks are. If you pressure wash beforehand and it's a minor weep it may not be an issue. ANother option is of course to choose a workshop who can undertake the work for you as well as doing the rwc.

[Odium]

and if they're getting an hour of paid labour for the seals, they might go easy on some other items they could otherwise charge you for

[Strick.]

Thanks gents, its not much at all. Ill just give it a wipe over. Will allow me to do it when i move into my house.

Cheers

[ShortCircuit]

Doubling up on a question I asked in another thread.

Can anyone recommend me a place in Melbourne (West subs preferably) to get my RWC done? A place that will actually do a RWC for a R34 GTR.

Thanks

[ShortCircuit]

All sorted, car has been booked in for RWC with Edge Motorworks.

[mercyseat]

Hi

Looking for some advice on buying a modified car that has no roadworthy.

The car I'm looking at has brake upgrades,3 exhaust turbo back with high flow cat, suspension upgrades, larger turbo upgrade,air intake upgraded,turbo timer/boost control, upgraded injectors, spare intercooler yet to be installed so running standard cooling.Radiator top tank was empty when I looked so I didn't test drive it. The engine has been replaced with a reconditioned engine. Dash says 260,000 km's but reco engine installed at 170,000kms "apparently".

The car is registered but the guy isn't selling with a roadworthy which is my concern. He also doesn't have the import paper's as he's I think the third owner.

Are any of these mods illegal to register if I'm copped with the roadworthy?

He's asking $7,800 which I think it isn't worth without roady. Not sure what's a fair price for it? It's 1998 R33.....I've added some pictures if that helps.

[wht510]

You will have trouble with the following: (Depending on your RWC guy/gal)

1. Injectors. Anything with different injectors is a fail. You may be able to get away with it IF they aren't visible...

2. Suspension upgrades (no coil overs, must be OEM)

3. Aftermarket exhaust. Needs to be factory, or proven to be under the sound limit and emissions. You pick which one. Either is expensive... You may be easier to get something CAT back and just prove the sound limit. Anything to do with aftermarket Catalytic converters, usually means trouble and requires an engineers sign off.. $$$

4. Larger Turbo (if they know what it looks like compared to factory). So no high mount/twin scroll polished nastiness!

5. Air intake upgrade may require investigation, but could be OK. If you are running the standard intercooler, then you should be OK.

6. Brake Upgrades... Forget it. These will have to be converted back to OEM unless you can prove the car stops the same and you haven't affected ABS etc. Any RWC will put a cross against this.

7. Based on a quick look at your photos, the catch can cannot vent to atmosphere. You must have it plumbed back to where the factory point is. Nothing wrong with running a catch can, it just can't vent to atmosphere...

8. Wheels: Check to see whether the rolling diameter isn't different by more than (damn I can't remember) X%. and the width needs to be checked.

9. Boost controllers, aftermarket ECU's. Forget it. These will have to be replaced with OEM stuff.

Hope this helps.

[ShortCircuit]

My car passed a RWC earlier this year with coil overs. As long as the car is above 120mm off the ground with no one in it you should be fine.

Exhaust should be OK as long as it's not too loud but places that are not familiar with modified cars will probably not pass this as they need to take photo's of everything. Vicroads have been known to question inspectors who pass cars with non-factory exhausts.

Air intake (pod filter) is only allowed if you are running the stock intercooler.

If I was you I'd speak to a place who is familiar with modified cars and ask them of their opinion. Sometimes it's more hassle than its worth (which is why the seller isn't selling it with a RWC).

Good luck.

[mercyseat]

You will have trouble with the following: (Depending on your RWC guy/gal)

1. Injectors. Anything with different injectors is a fail. You may be able to get away with it IF they aren't visible...

2. Suspension upgrades (no coil overs, must be OEM)

3. Aftermarket exhaust. Needs to be factory, or proven to be under the sound limit and emissions. You pick which one. Either is expensive... You may be easier to get something CAT back and just prove the sound limit. Anything to do with aftermarket Catalytic converters, usually means trouble and requires an engineers sign off.. $$$

4. Larger Turbo (if they know what it looks like compared to factory). So no high mount/twin scroll polished nastiness!

5. Air intake upgrade may require investigation, but could be OK. If you are running the standard intercooler, then you should be OK.

6. Brake Upgrades... Forget it. These will have to be converted back to OEM unless you can prove the car stops the same and you haven't affected ABS etc. Any RWC will put a cross against this.

7. Based on a quick look at your photos, the catch can cannot vent to atmosphere. You must have it plumbed back to where the factory point is. Nothing wrong with running a catch can, it just can't vent to atmosphere...

8. Wheels: Check to see whether the rolling diameter isn't different by more than (damn I can't remember) X%. and the width needs to be checked.

9. Boost controllers, aftermarket ECU's. Forget it. These will have to be replaced with OEM stuff.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Heaps, sounds more like trouble than good. I figured there was a reason why the car was offered with no RWC. They didn't know anything about the engine's history other than listing what he'd reckoned was done. No receipts nothing.

My other question was do you need any import or original RAWs compliance paperwork if you buy without a roadworthy? I thought you'd need a copy of the compliance paperwork if your buying without a roadworthy.

I wasn't after the engine, I wanted to use the front section to restore my own car's damage.

Really didn't know what to offer. So offered

[Odium]

That's not the engine from a 1998 R33 Turbo...

[mercyseat]

That's not the engine from a 1998 R33 Turbo...

I noted that too.The Engine and VIN numbers showed that, not typical numbers.

It was a reconditioned engine "apparently" that had 170,000kms clocked up = a tired engine.

I took a wide berth and walked away from it.

Looked like the car had been passed around mates numerous times.

I've found a better specimen last weekend which I'm looking into.

[mercyseat]

Hi I have a question in regards to Rim sizes that will pass VIC  roadworthy.

I've  got a 1997 SII R33 GTS-T coupe. Stock rims are 16".

How big/wide can I go but keep it from being fined? I was told spacers aren't allowed but that's the only info I've been able to obtain so far. Was hoping to get some bronze deep dish rims 18 x 8 front  & 18 x 9.5 on rear ....or wider but not sure how far i can go before mods kick in?

There's a heap of Japanese GTR fitment rims around but finding it hard to find Japanese rims with  a GTST fitment.

Anyone had any grief after fitting Japanese Work, Volk, Enkei rims?

Edited September 17, 2016 by mercyseat

[Leroy Peterson]

what wheels are on it now? cant you just get a roadworthy with some smaller wheels (even borrow someones) then just swap them over.

[KLR32]

So I heard recently that full epa's are a thing of the past and are now done through a rwc check? Finding it hard to beleive

[Buraz]

Coming from a highway patrol cop!! The main guys at epa at McLeod have either retired or moved on and the epa never bothered to replace them. So that part remains closed and they can't send you up there for a full epa.

However the noise epa checks at exhaust shops are the only place they can send you.

I reckon that the epa of the past is long gone, imports are rare and people don't bother with crazy mods anymore. It's all about stealth and performance euro cars that currently outnumber the imports heavily.

Plus most hwy patrol cops these days know f**k all about cars cause they're not trained and have no interest in cars at all. It's all about handing out fines and that's it. Few of the older blokes are still very knowledgeable but even they cbf anymore. Not long ago my brother got pulled over in a BMW M4 and the cop complimented how nice his Benz was loll

[KLR32]

On ‎19‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 4:31 PM, Buraz said:

Coming from a highway patrol cop!! The main guys at epa at McLeod have either retired or moved on and the epa never bothered to replace them. So that part remains closed and they can't send you up there for a full epa.

However the noise epa checks at exhaust shops are the only place they can send you.

I reckon that the epa of the past is long gone, imports are rare and people don't bother with crazy mods anymore. It's all about stealth and performance euro cars that currently outnumber the imports heavily.

Plus most hwy patrol cops these days know f**k all about cars cause they're not trained and have no interest in cars at all. It's all about handing out fines and that's it. Few of the older blokes are still very knowledgeable but even they cbf anymore. Not long ago my brother got pulled over in a BMW M4 and the cop complimented how nice his Benz was loll

If that's the case how would one clear a full epa from the past if they supposedly don't do it anymore? I'm kind of hoping it'll just eventually vanish off the system one day

[Buraz]

I'll ask for you that's a good question

[Buraz]

I'll ask for you that's a good question