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How To Achieve High 12's?

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700HP-GTR33 Mentor

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reaction time bears no relevance on the 1/4 time

you can have a 20s reaction time and still run 12s

So I will run a 12s if I launch after 20s...thats funny Paul.

I had to reply to this......

OH.....the topic....GTR High 12's 230KW street tyres at street pressure.

GTSt.... High 12's 250KW slicks at 18Psi...after a massive burnout.

2rismo Grand Master

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So I will run a 12s if I launch after 20s...thats funny Paul.

I had to reply to this......

Umm....yes that's exactly right. What's your question exactly?

OH.....the topic....GTR High 12's 230KW street tyres at street pressure.

GTSt.... High 12's 250KW slicks at 18Psi...after a massive burnout.

The topic is R33 gtst and high 12's. If you need 250kW and slicks you're a worse driver than my nan and she's 6 feet under. :P

ECR033 Mentor

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So I will run a 12s if I launch after 20s...thats funny Paul.

I had to reply to this......

That's funny, I had to reply to this...

R/T has NOTHING to do with your ET. ET is measure once you break the start beam, regardless of when the light goes green.

700HP-GTR33 Mentor

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Umm....yes that's exactly right. What's your question exactly?

The topic is R33 gtst and high 12's. If you need 250kW and slicks you're a worse driver than my nan and she's 6 feet under. :P

I thought the question was related to a drag strip....lights and all...so 20s reaction time sounded funny.

Traction is important...and getting power to the ground even more important....to be able run

say 3 to 4 high 12's in a row (Between say 12.6 to 12.9) would require a great driver at 200kw's.

And to run with a 250kw would require a moderate driver...

700HP-GTR33 Mentor

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That's funny, I had to reply to this...

R/T has NOTHING to do with your ET. ET is measure once you break the start beam, regardless of when the light goes green.

Sorry...I might have mis-understood the object of the drag strip...

Is it not the first to cross the line?..

Are we not at the drag strip when we record this time?

My I am bad. :huh: ...lol..

Take everything back :P

Col-GTSX Grand Master

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Back last year in the July SAU TNT i was running 198rwkw at the time and I ran a 13.4 with a bad launch and no traction til 2nd gear...

Plus i screwed my clutch doing the burn out so it sliped in top gear...

So all in all if i had a good clutch a high 12 is quite possible from an R33 with 200rwkw... Assuming you get a good launch down and have grippy tyres...

I now have 300rwkw+ so im heading for 11 seconds on street rubber in two weeks time on the 3rd of March... :P

ECR033 Mentor

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Sorry...I might have mis-understood the object of the drag strip...

Is it not the first to cross the line?..

Are we not at the drag strip when we record this time?

My I am bad. :huh: ...lol..

Take everything back :P

Yes, we're talking about racing at a drag strip (where else are you going to race?).

Obviously if you are competing in a competition and racing the guy in the other lane, then reaction time is very important in winning the race. The topic of this thread doesn't relate to racing or crossing the line first though. It relates to running a high 12 ET, therefore reaction time isn't relevant as your only racing the clock, not the guy in the other lane.

For the record, 12.9 is very possible with 185rwkw - I know, I've done it :)

700HP-GTR33 Mentor

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hey guys/gals im wondering how much rear wheel kilowatt do u need to achieve a high 12 second pass down the 1/4 mile in a r33 gtst?

im curious to see what ppl come up with cause i have no clue.. i know the driver plays a big role too.

if u can guys plz post your times with the power you made at the wheels

cheers :P

Racing some one down the 1/4 Mile lights and all 250kws ATW.

Racing yourself ie..ET 1/4 Mile 200 to 220kws...as stated no reaction time to consider...

I correct myself.. :huh:

Look at the sticky threads times and power ATW's ..although this will not indicate the set up

Suspension...Tune....Tyres...Temperature at the track...Fuel they run...etc..etc...can be mis-leading.

nsanity Rising Star

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Some one told me this dunno if it's true 'cut the standard springs get them tempered softer and fit to standard struts' allows the car to get better traction off the line or something.

Cutting springs is Dangerous, never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER CUT your Springs.

NEVER

EVER

DO NOT DO IT

YOU WILL DIE

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R33GOD Grand Master

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intresting to see how many ppl have gotten high 12's with only 200rwk...

im nervous as hell to run down the 1/4 and im predicted to have at least 210rwk with my setup... ive ran down the strip when it was dead stock and ran a 14.59 @ 97mph and id never raced down the 1/4 ever before that.

another question. cause im running my stock injectors with the mods previously stated whats a safe injector duty cycle when dyno'n? ( i have a heavy foot lol )

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My experience (in an R31 coupe) is that the lesser your experience is then the more power you have will likely impede you.

I have only been to the strip once and had ~235rwkw and thought I was going to go home with a 12 second slip. I left with a string of flat 14s at around 108-110mph. The adrenalin rush, and my green racing experience resulted in the first two gears just being blazing wheelspin and bouncing off the limiter while trying to keep it straight. With less power I think I might of gone faster.

R31Nismoid Grand Master

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intresting to see how many ppl have gotten high 12's with only 200rwk...

im nervous as hell to run down the 1/4 and im predicted to have at least 210rwk with my setup

I had 210-220rwkw, 12.9 @ 109mph... and the car was 1400kg's

Its possible without a doubt

You just need practice

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