Programmable ECU Vs Factory ECU

[Steve]

Thanks Paul,

What else - well basically what is the full functionality, what extras are needed to run what?

I am very interested in the auxilliary control features, temp compensation, dual control for thermo fans? etc. - just as much as you can get your head around telling me really.

have seen Steve pushing them pretty hard, so he must be pretty impressed with them which says alot for the ECU, also you seem pretty wrapped in yours. Just when I mention wolf and R33 over hear, people sort of duck for cover, I have had one place say 'bring it down and I will tell you what I think, but the last one I had anything to do with wasnt that good' (no specifics) - all end up just saying 'get a power fc'. Well I got a power fc, but doesnt wolf have sequential firing? And nobody knows.

So I NEED to know about them thoroughly before I decide to go for it and then find no one can tune them. Thats another thing that would be good, a run down on how the tuning software is?

I am a bit worried about any ECU that can be tuned for $200 - that sounds far too cheap for a good tune on a comprehensive ECU??????

From all that I have read the V4.1 would be better (almost) than an Autronic, esp when you consider its plug and play AND alot cheaper.

Its a shame that the ECU guys cant get on here and do a bit of hard sell, so we all have the most up to date details and can then make an informed decision.

And lastly - could you tell me exactly which model to get? It seems there may be more than one around at the moment?

Thanks again

Steve

[Roy]

Steve, i feel your pain.

In Sydney i havce been having the same prob. Maybe a holiday to WA, SST do my Wolf then a quick trip down to Barbagallo (spelling?) to make the trip worthwhile.

[Steve]

Or you could make it the BIGGEST SAU CRUISE ever - pick up fellow members on the way and start an annual round australia cruise - just like the bikies do:D

Group buy wolfs in WA, and a big track day and BBQ before heading home! What do you say Steve? discount for interstate SAU members?

[Roy]

Actaully thats not as silly as it sounds. In syd its going to cost me $3000+ and im not confident im going to get what i want!!!

What does TNT car carrying/Finemores charge, from memory it was about $400 one way from syd. Virgin flight, i few nights on the town while she gets tuned, and a rap around a WA circuit.

[Steve]

If you got the time, its not a bad place to visit, and the skyline scene is pretty bit over there - sure some of the lads will look after you - they're a pretty friendly bunch.

On the way back you could do a few high speed runs on the nullabor - oh that is if wasnt illegal. Just make sure you have an oil cooler for barbagello:) (autobahn - $800 odd with thermostat)

Goddammit I think I am beginning to become a walking parts catalogue

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Hi Guys,

I don't want to make are hard sell to any of you but I'm more than willing to lend you my bit of knowledge:D

The plug'n'play variety of Wolf Ver4 is much better than the generic version4, they are also very simple to install and setup. The version for the R33 GTS-t's have been used here with excellent results.

I don't know who is tuning them for $200 but that sounds a bit too cheap to me. They don't come with much of a map inbuilt so it needs tuning pretty much straightaway.

I know that Steve at SST retails the Wolf, including fitting and tuning for $2200, which is very competitive vs. many other ECU's.

The features in the plug'n'play are impressive, with built-in MAP sensor, boost controller, temperature compensation, rotational idle, anti-lag etc.

I think the reason the versions are confusing some people is that there are firmware upgrades to the ECU, or which you should get 6months of free upgrades. Other features such as mapping boost vs. rpm (launch control) have been added since the first release.

The tuning software is Windows based and is very easy to use for any tuner, and easy enough for most people to have a tinker with.

The Wolf has an number of auxillary inputs and outputs which can be configured in a myriad of ways.

I hope I have answered some of your questions, feel free to ask more.

Cheers

Paul

[Steve]

Thanks Paul, I do have another quesiton/s (and probably more to follow) - the inbuild boost control, what does it use to control boost? Does it come with a solenoid? Or do you need to get one of these? Could it be used with say an apexi boost control solenoid (as I already have one of these with the power fc)?

[Roy]

... see this is why i have the sh1ts, ive bought a Power FC, but i want a WOLF for all these features!!! It would seem i can off load the FC pretty easily, so still looking to somehow arrange a WOLF install.

Work won a contract in perth for Jan this year, bu the job was delayed, in which time this company's share prices have crashed so i doubt they are still wanting to spend $$$ with my company. Would have worked out nicely, never know still may.

[benm]

Just thought i'd mention a finding of some recent web browsing...

www.greenline.jp have the PowerFC for 80,850 yen + H/C for 28,875 + shipping 5,500 yen = AU $1,528.

Thats damn cheap if you ask me.

[Steve]

Good old Aus oxford schollar is coming on strong too:) always helps.

[DCIEVE]

any opinions in here on the Link ecu?? i think its mostly used in WRX's anyone have any experience with them in a skyline?? i have heard many good things about them in other cars (mainly rex's) but dont dont know of any in a 'line tho

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Steve, I believe that the Wolf can use the stock solenoid, or aftermarket ones, but I don't know off the top of my head whether it will work with all aftermarket ones. It is possible to use one of the auxillary inputs and a potentiometer to provide a fully variable boost controller like an EBC.

I'll speak to Steve tommorow and try and get a more definate answer on which solenoids it will work with:D

Cheers

Paul

[rob77]

Whats the benefits of the autronics to the wolf can anyone give an honest opinion?

[Steve]

Pretty sure it has self tune and traction control that the wolf doesnt have.

[rob77]

Paul, gtst-vspec, was saying that the updated wolf software has traction control... or was that launch control? hmmm.

[Steve]

Wouldnt surprise me if it did, seems to have just about everything else you could ever want from a street/strip ecu.

[rob77]

Hmmm... this is all very annoying. If I can get the wolf tuned for $2200 why pay the extra $1300 for the autronic?

[Steve]

Why dont you go and visit Steve at SST and ask him what he thinks and what the ecu can provide. Take all the info you have on the autronic, tell him what you like about the autronic, and see what the wolf has to offer. At least you live somewhere that the knowledge and experience is readily available - use it to your best advantage.

[rob77]

mmm, but its a biased opinion because he sells wolf

[APA]

steve also sells autronics and haltechs on demand i'm pretty sure ??????????

adrian