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lol well, PhilGTR looks like he can.. and hopefully you will mate.

I actually went to testdrive one the other day, and if you havent testdrove an Evo, well basically, go test drive one. lol.

but I tell ya, the way the dealer drove it, he was caning the thing and went to 130 in a small street, and tapped the brakes while trying to take a hook turn (I say trying because tyres and brakes werent warmed up so bouncing around a bit but still an amazing machine). I was sh!tting myself too cos after a straight, he steered it right into the kerb (as though you completely misjudged the corner far too early) and quickly countersteered off to show me that it wasn't easy getting the evo off balance, "You'd have to be a complete idiot of a driver to mess an Evo up". I mean, that thing just stayed put. I was grinning ear to ear. hahaha

interior probably isnt as nice as MPSs and RX8s, but does its job well; suede recaros and suede back seats. Feels alot smaller inside than the STi, but would definitely outrun one. And for the price, nothing comes close.

PhilGTR, I would highly recommend grabbing yourself an evo. Incomparably more agile than the GTR and you'd definitely appreciate the move to it coming from a GTR yourself.

deriq.

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3 MPS is nice but FWD? and the price compared to a Golf GTi, or XR5 its a bit pricey. My pick would be the 6 MPS. Heavy (1800kg) but ive seen a stocker pull a 14.3 at the drags. RX8 is too high maintianence.

6 MPS weighs 1620 kg , thats the leather pack , the poverty pack is even lighter.

6 MPS would be my choice ( leather ) out of the cars you listed , much better car than the 3 MPS and you can use the power in the wet and dry , not much slower than the 3 either, good for 14.2 1/4 mile .

There is only one probelm , the resale value is already poor for some reason. Until a couple months ago you could still find new 05 cars in the delerships. You can get 10 k of the recommended retail price, so dont pay more than $50k for the leather pack brand new , even less for demo.

If I was you I would consider liberty GT as well , go and test drive one , they are a good car, subaru are very reliable cars and have a good resale value, about the same price as the 6 MPS but you wont gat much off the retail price .

I think it's worth mentioning that the RX8 is a completely different experince to all the other options that have been mentioned. Someone moving from a skyline to an RX8 should be aware of a few things...

Firstly in relation to the engine, power is delivered very smoothly and without fuss. There is a slight peak from about 5k onward to 9.5k. There is not a great deal of torqe forcing you into the seat like a turb coming on boost. If this is what you are after, do not buy an RX8 unless you're happy with the power/torque or planning for FI or other significant conversion. Having said this, the stated power/torque figures don't quite capture the whole experience of accelerating in an RX8 however more power/torque would be welcome if the opportunity arose.

Secondly the handling is brilliant. By that I mean that moving from a spirited driving mindset to a comfortable traffic driving mindset is pretty much transparent. Seriously an exciting/thrilling drive. I'm aware of some criticism of other vehicles in that they are not able to achieve a good balance. Again if you want something more track oriented perhaps you need to look at improving the suspension with aftermarket parts, or going elsewhere.

Thirdly the interior and build quality is a cut above the other options. The materials and design of the interior compliments itself. I was disappointed in the quality of other interiors, although i have to say the Liberty GT with the STI pack and McIntosh sound system was pretty impressive. The BOSE sound system in the RX8 is good enough unless you want to impress the crowd outside TGIs on Chapel. Then you need to look at aftermarket. When compared to the 3 & 6 MPS the interiors feel significantly more vanilla. The seating position is far more upright. I guess its all about trying to upgrade a 20-30k car to a 40-50k package? e.g. the gear boot on the 3 & 6 feels really thin, knobs on the climate controls are nasty...

i could go on but i cbf...

All in all, if you're still uncertain as to what you should buy keep test driving until you decide. If someone really wants to sell you something they will hand you the keys time and time again.

Also accept the fact that the car you pay for will be the car you take home, by that i mean its not going to magically get more comfortable or more powerful on the way home. Modifications cost $. Plan with contingency in mind...

P.S. That was definately longer that i thought... Hope the read was worth it...

:laugh:

Edited by blur:R

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