Edward Lees

[32vspecII]

People should keep in mind that the warranty sold by dealers isn't worth the paper its printed on

thats just rediculous

if your having problems with a dealer warranty then take it up with them , but the warranties are firmly biased towards the consumer and 99% of the time state consumer departments will side with the customer

even outside of the context of the 3 month statutory dealers warranty you have fair trading legislation which gives implied warranties on all goods . These state the product must be fit for purpose and of merchantable quality with no serious defects or faults.

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/business...andrepairs.html

take on the dealer and you will almost always win

[LBR33]

thats just rediculous

if your having problems with a dealer warranty then take it up with them , but the warranties are firmly biased towards the consumer and 99% of the time state consumer departments will side with the customer

even outside of the context of the 3 month statutory dealers warranty you have fair trading legislation which gives implied warranties on all goods . These state the product must be fit for purpose and of merchantable quality with no serious defects or faults.

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/business...andrepairs.html

take on the dealer and you will almost always win

If you have a good look at the details about the only thing it covers is if you throw a rod through the side of the block and even then the amount they pay hardly pays for a quality rebuild so really is useless

[32vspecII]

why should the dealer pay for a forged rebuild if you throw a rod ?

hardly apples for apples is it

point is you buy a car with a f**ked engine they will have to fix it , the car has to be fit for purpose and a dead engine isnt fit for purpose . most places would just source another 2nd hand engine and swap it and i think thats a pretty reasonable solution

[LBR33]

why should the dealer pay for a forged rebuild if you throw a rod ?

hardly apples for apples is it

point is you buy a car with a f**ked engine they will have to fix it , the car has to be fit for purpose and a dead engine isnt fit for purpose . most places would just source another 2nd hand engine and swap it and i think thats a pretty reasonable solution

I never said they should pay for a forged rebuild there is such thing as a standard rebuild. The dealer doesnt pay for the warranty repairs the warranty company do so the dealer isnt too concerned if the car has a engine on its way out.

[SiR_RB]

i went there around middle of last year looking at an r33 gtst s2 they had, they wanted 26k for it, but we did end up gettin them down to 21k, which is still wayyyyy to much...so we walked off

dealers will always be more expenisive then private sales, others rekon dealer cars are in better condition, i dont totally agree

private sales FTW !!!

[SiR_RB]

also is it true that if you buy a car from a dealer, that you have to take it back to them for every service? otherwise your warrenty is void?

[LBR33]

also is it true that if you buy a car from a dealer, that you have to take it back to them for every service? otherwise your warrenty is void?

Each service must be done by a proper mechanic and the receipt sent to the warranty company everything must be done on time too

[eMsta]

warranty is only good for big problems with the car such as the turbo.....the AVWG people wouldnt help me when my welsh plugs gave way.....so yeah...if you get a very good condition car, then you wouldnt need a warranty

[32vspecII]

I never said they should pay for a forged rebuild there is such thing as a standard rebuild. The dealer doesnt pay for the warranty repairs the warranty company do so the dealer isnt too concerned if the car has a engine on its way out.

a standard rebuild is still providing a repair beyond the level of the original part , the engine in a skylines done 50000 - 100000km and a have a fair amount of wear on them , the dealer is quite within his rights to provide a similar 2nd hand engine

if your talking about the aftersales warranties sold at an extra cost like all states then you will find their claims are all limited to a certain amount , a few thousand dollars usually . The dealer also has to provide a statutory dealers warranty , which is not cost limited which in most states is 3 months / 5000km . On top of that the dealer has to comply with fair trading legislation which gives implied warranties which are not cost or time limited . So its in the dealers interest not to sell f**ked engines even if he is selling aftermarket warranties with the cars.

even if you have one of these aftermarket warranties you are totally within your rights to make the dealer fix something under the fair trading statutes or the dealers warranty . once that expires use your own warranty

some dealers are dodgy and will try and avoid their obligations , but the law is always on the consumers side . you just have to enforce it

Edited April 8, 2007 by arkon

[LBR33]

a standard rebuild is still providing a repair beyond the level of the original part , the engine in a skylines done 50000 - 100000km and a have a fair amount of wear on them , the dealer is quite within his rights to provide a similar 2nd hand engine

So then wouldnt the dealer just provide cheapest dodgiest engine they can find as it only needs to last a month or 2 more

[32vspecII]

possibly , but if you could prove it was dodgy you would win every time and hes back where he started. infact you wouldnt even have to prove it , if you took that senario to the fair trade commission they would side with you in a second especialy if the dealer had a history

the dealer could have you killed in the middle of the night and your car crushed into a cube and thrown into the sea to avoid a warranty claim too

Edited April 8, 2007 by arkon

[tjandriesen]

I bot a car from a guy who had a dealer warranty (he bot it from JapLink) and it was transferrable. It gave me a certain level of comfort when buying the car.

I did need to have the dealer do all the work to maintain the warranty, First oil change was at a small premium to the price at other shops I checked but not stupidly so. The JapLink guys were very decent to deal with.

The bigger issue was that vehicles are excluded from coverage if it is a "Vehicle modified beyond manufacturers specifications". I'd assume that covers most anything except cosmetic items.

[Spook's_Skyline]

People should keep in mind that the warranty sold by dealers isn't worth the paper its printed on

dunno how you figure that

i got repairs worth more than what i paid for my warranty done through avwg

[ProphetR33]

I bot a car from a guy who had a dealer warranty (he bot it from JapLink) and it was transferrable. It gave me a certain level of comfort when buying the car.

I did need to have the dealer do all the work to maintain the warranty, First oil change was at a small premium to the price at other shops I checked but not stupidly so. The JapLink guys were very decent to deal with.

The bigger issue was that vehicles are excluded from coverage if it is a "Vehicle modified beyond manufacturers specifications". I'd assume that covers most anything except cosmetic items.

JapLink's warranty covers you after modifications, as long as those modifications are carried out by a workshop and you have receipts to prove it.

You're right though, they're very good blokes to deal with, the owner Sami is a top bloke and always friendly. Personally I mod the car myself and forget about the warranty because the money I save on doing the work myself is worth more than whats covered in the warranty anyway (for most components). I still get my car serviced by them though because they're still reasonably priced, friendly and got a good workshop and rep.

[R33GTSTMSPECII]

I used to work for ELJAC (ed lees) and have to say that in the time i was there i witnessed both awesome quality vehicles and poor quality vehicles. Dodgy sales and great sales. I am however happy to say that the car i bought from them (before i worked there) was reasonably priced compared to others on the market and they were happy to perform necessary works within the statuatory warranty period. When my clutch died (it was factory unit) they replaced it, when my turbo seals went (wear and tear over time) they did the necessary work. Sam in the workshop is a great bloke and good at what he does. Arvin is awesome also. As for the owner (Mr P.Lee) he is a top bloke also but the sales manager (lets call him mr B) he is not so nice and is the reason i cant get a job in the industry again... In saying that, i did enjoy my time with the company and im not bad mouthing them. Car is still going great!!!

[Spunky Munky]

I bought a bottle of coca cola from Coles today in sunshine, the customer assistant was called Cloe.

damn, i just want to say ... wow, great service highly recommended.

man, seriously... ha haha