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i got a R33 gtst... i thought insurance would be cheaper cuz 1. it aint a import 2. its not turboed.... i find it disturbing dat a NA 4cylinder can beat a 6cylinder turboed car.. :( yea i rekon they are a bit too expensive tho still paying around 30k for 97-00 models... do u rekon a NA supra would be better, perfomance and insurance wise??cuz they sure as hell look better..

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hmmm... I doubt you'll be saving much on the insurance.. as its mainly just the power and replacement cost of the car they're concerned about.

My friend pays more for his fairly stock n/a Supra than i do for my modded GTS-T actually.

I've played with a few Type-R's on the road.. no much for a modded skyline (like mine :P ), but with the FWD they'd be nice around corners and things. They look pretty sex inside.

You could put a few mods on like V-AFC (S-AFC type thing for VTEC), pod, exhaust, and it would go pretty nicely.

i used to drive a Type-R quite regualarly. Yes for a N/A they are very quick and fairly good fun to drive - but it didnt really feel much more quicker than an NA Skyline. Have beaten one in the Skyline - sorry. Never been beaten by a Honda yet - it will be a sad day when i do!!

My Buddy with plates RBL 00D has a black type r and i've got a 96 Skyline R33gts25t, when my car was TOTALLY stock a block in a race up to say 110km/h from standstill at the lights i would be slightly ahead of him say his bonnet was reaching my side mirrors, btw this was with 2 ppl in the line and 1 person in the ITR

Then had another run let my friend drive the line and i sat in passenger seat raced the ITR again my line losted 2 car spaces to him.. depends on driver but in the RAIN the ITR's ARE CRAZY!!.

handle like no tomorrow with new eagle F1s heavy rain taking small street turns in 60zones at 40-60 didn't even slip with my gts at 40 i would of lost the tail.. my opinion ITR good handling rough RIDE tho, and noisy engine, fuel consumption even better then his GLI EK CIVIC faster then old 200sx btw.

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A line should always beat a type R over the 1/4. The type R game is 0 to 100. Type Rs being N/A are easier to get consistant launches and with the old type Rs being good for high 5s in the 0-100 race beware the type R at the lights! No one want to be beaten by a N/A 4! 0-60km/h or 0-100km/h they are a tuff competitor. On the highway though the skyline will eat it without a problem.

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yea if u had to go for a type r, i'd say go for the civic. although it lacks the 200cc the integra has, the civic type r is actually faster due to its weight.

after that pop a B18 into it and you'd be smiling. wun be any competition for a turbo, but mighty powerful for an N.A.

The ITR will always be faster than the CTR. With equal drivers that is.

But dropping the B18c into a civic type r will yeild even better results. I'm not even speaking about the DC5/EP3's because we (here in America) don't have the privilege of owning them.

I have an ITR engine in my 99 civic.. and it's great. I don't race it, but I'd like to. It's decently quick. Definetely a powerfull high revving engine. Also, here in America, the insurance on ITR's is insane for most people because it's loved by criminals everywhere.

I'm selling mine for a 240 though. :D I'm tired of FWD.

If I could have a skyline though, I'd take it in a heartbeat. You guys are so lucky.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, FWD hondas are not easy to launch. (for the drag racers) It takes some getting used to. Having an LSD like the ITR/CTR helps BIG TIME. Sticky tires are a must.

And for those even asking about whether the ITR/CTR would keep up in the straights with a skyline, there is no way. It might be close, but the skyline will come out on top.

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I've test drove the Integra Type R (DC5), it's not bad. Doesn't look appealing as the DC2 but has much better interior.

My opinion after extensive research for a powerful and cheap N/A sports car would be RX8. Insurance is 10% cheaper then S2000 and 350Z. Car is priced under $60,000 for your tasting. A brand new Integra Type R is (including on road costs) would be $48,000. I highly recommend not buying this vehicle (Honda Accord V6 is better). Infact a DC2 would be your best choice. I believe one of Honda's most perfect created vehicles (the JDM 160kw version of course).

straight line aren't everything, they are just connecting the corner.

DC2 is a lot better than civic, it's a bit tail happy. it's didn't drives like "FWD".

have seen a 2L DC2R run same lap time as a 2530s equiped R32 GTR, both driven by exp. driver, what more i need to say?

I drove one a bit. I admit it was an '03 model so it's supposed to be "slower" than the '00. But by how much? Is it THAT much of a margin to say my feelings are going to be way off.

My feeling is that its a slow car that needs to be wound out to the very top of its top end before it gets moving.

I have raced the same car when the Skyline was stock, from a standing start the ITR was behind quite considerably. By the time he was revving to 900000 rpm or whatever it takes to get one of those things moving i was already in second and leaving him behind.

Well last friday night i rocked up next to a white type r on some street :Oops:

From the start i had about bonnet and 1/2 on him...before i hit 4th gear and he gave up i was about a bonnet 1/2 in front.

They do hammer for a N/A car.

My mate is sponsered by Raztech who specialise in hondas and turbo kits for htem..i.e one of their customers = blkcrx 400fwkw running 20 pound boost or somfin soon to be 40 pound

they have a few dc2r's with turbo kits custom made for around 8k + tuning....stock output of 197fwkw and you have a definate 11 second car. Absolute animal and the insurance difference is around $200 extra for comp through racv for a 20 year old lol with a turbo kit :)

yeah I ran one too in my line when it was stock... got half a car on him in the launch grabbed second and put another half a car on him... he slowed down almost as soon as I hit second... I reckon he was trying to suss out if I had a turbo or not and when he heard the pshh he just backed off...

that said there a nice lookin car and look to be a lot of fun to drive...

Insurance wouldn't vary much, due to the fact that some companies don't care whether or

not it is turbo or not... the fact that it is a high performance car.

May I suggest a Honda Civic VTiR??

With the money you pay for an ITR you are probably better off to buy just the stock 1800 VTEC (VTIR?) and spend the money on making it quicker. I used to have an Integra Si that had had some mild work done to it and it was a fair bit quicker than a Type R for a lot less then buying one. Not sure about prices in Aussie but I paid $12K for it when the Type R was over $20K.

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