Another one bites the dust

[MaXiMuS007]

Oh and I just want to you all for being as helpful as you have been, it really puts a warm fuzzy feeling in me to know that people are out there to give someone a hand.

[meggala]

defiantly take it to other plces for quotes even if youhave to put it on a tow truck in fact I would be gettign out of there quick looks very fixabl;e to me my thoughts and I'm no expert is 4-5 k tops especially if you hunt down the parts your self

meggala

[Guest INASNT]

max

it dont look that bad, just the bent front rails are the big problem.

try can fix it before u sell to any1!

[MaXiMuS007]

OK Jack has just helped me tow my car to another panel beater. Things seem much more optimistic now.

I definitely want to fix it assuming it can be done for the amount i want it done for. The radiator support panel is probably repairable. the rest depends on how much parts cost.

I definitely need:

- 2 headlights

- Bonnet

I may need:

- Front bar + grill

- LHF guard

- Radiator

- A/C condenser + piping

- Radiator support panel

Please PM if you have any of this stuff around

[MaXiMuS007]

I've also taken some new pictures

much clearer now

[Zdenko]

woowww ..

nice work ..........

i say

u ripe out da motor from ur car

MAKE it fit in ur missus morris

and go sick from there...

[MaXiMuS007]

hahaha you love that mini

i think the RB25 is bigger than the whole mini anyway

[Zdenko]

thats y god invented side grinders.....

yeah

that mini.. seriously.. i feel in love with it...

ahha

TURBO IT..

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by MaXiMuS007

OK Jack has just helped me tow my car to another panel beater. Things seem much more optimistic now.

I definitely want to fix it assuming it can be done for the amount i want it done for. The radiator support panel is probably repairable. the rest depends on how much parts cost.

I definitely need:

- 2 headlights

- Bonnet

I may need:

- Front bar + grill

- LHF guard

- Radiator

- A/C condenser + piping

- Radiator support panel

Please PM if you have any of this stuff around

man skyline33 can get u all those spare parts for preety cheap, just came back from his mates workshop and they got shit loads of skyline engines and body parts!

[MaXiMuS007]

Thanx INASNT i'll pm him

[Henros]

Max dude, sue the frigging compliance engineer. If you can prove that the car was complianced with the dodgy bumper (ie. you didn't put it on yourself), I think this is definitely a case of negligence - the complaince engineer has breached his duty of care by signing off a car that did not pass ADR. The consequence was clearly foreseeable. However, you may not be able to recover full cost due to contributory negligence on your behalf, since you caused the accident.

Whatever happens, good luck dude.

[adznight]

Hey, sorry to hear about your car man. I had a very close call the other night and i was counting my lucky stars. Hope things work out ok 4 ya!

[MaXiMuS007]

Thanks Henros, I was thinking along the same lines, i.e. contributory negligence, as clearly the damage would not have been as great had the bumper support been attached properly.

The relevant statute for motor vehicles is the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989 but in it it refers to the ADR's which I couldn't find online. I wanted to get copies of the relevant ADR's before I got too carried away.

I did not put the bumper on, thats how it came to the country and thats how it was complianced. Clearly the duty of care for the engineer exists and it was breached. Although I knew that the front bar was aftermarket, I did not know of the changes to the vehicle's structure that facilitated its installation or its inadequacy for Australian regulations as I do now.

Would buying an imported car come under the Goods Act? Could this be considered "a good of unmerchantable quality"?. It is reasonable that I relied on the skills of the compliancing engineer to assure the structural stability of the vehicle. And surely it is not reasonable that during my inspection of the vehicle that I remove the bumper bar to inspect whats underneath is it? Thus it is considered a hidden defect. Two of the four tests for goods of a merchantable quality fail. Here the importer is considered the manufacturer, however it was not his fault as he wouldn't have known the changes to the underlying chassis, so maybe this doesn't apply then.

Should I succeed in some sort of action, however, it would open the "floodgates of litigation" for anyone with an aftermarket front bar who has an accident to claim damages from the installer or manufacturer. Then again, that is precisely the reason why the government has changed to the RAWS scheme, so maybe its justifiable.

It's definitely worth considering.

Does anyone have some definitive legal advice for me? Of course I claim responsibility for the accident itself but the damage is beyond what would have occurred to an ADR compliant vehicle.

[MaXiMuS007]

Oh and yes I know that I'm mixing up laws in that but you get my drift

[Zdenko]

u sure ur not from the west?????

i love it

[Guest INASNT]

most of the jap front spoilers (like mine) r preety thick and can stand a fair bit of punishment, alot of the aus ones which are very thin fibreglass can be broken off with a small kick

[MaXiMuS007]

mine was a jap front bar, not that thin, not exactly thick, but it did nothing in the collision. The problem is more from the cutting of metal from the supprts than the bumper itself.

have a look at photo no. 7 again, see the 2 rectangular cut outs in the metal? Then notice that the major bending in the bar happened at those points. Not a coincidence. In fact, the bars bent upwards at the cuts!

[Guest gtst88]

sorry to hear about your car maximus ..

you can however replace the whole front with original GTR bits now .. thats an excuse for getting 'em ..

4k with painting is pretty steep huh ?

[MaXiMuS007]

hrmmm... i didn't think of that gtst88

OK people if you have any cheap GTR bits going around feel free to PM me

And yeah, i think i will be able to have it done for much less than that

[Duncan]

For a big enough bill, repair shops will tow your car to their place for free for a quote. Just make sure there's no obligation - they'll try and bully you.