Brake Pads

[Swink33]

yeah the enkeis are nice. GTR track rims always seem to be TE37, LMGT4 or CE28s these days so I wanted something different for track.

definately keen to look at brakes. it's the current focus for the car. handling is fairly sorted, power is equal to driver talent (lol) and using good tyres always of course so i just need more work on brakes.

sidd, glad you like the car. it's been a few years toiling away but it now goes as good as it looks and is 100% reliable. just money spent in the right places is all.

anyway, i've dragged us way of topic again. but I'll add some value to this post and say:

for 100% street with some spirited driving I'd use the ultimates or endless SSS

for 90% street and a few track days with short sessions I'd go the SSS or RB74s if you must (lol).

for any more than 4 track days a year I really think you need 'street pads' and 'track pads' and preferably 2 sets of rotors on the go (so you can alternate). In that case I'd go the SSS or VN9500 on street and on track use ferrodo 3000s or the pagids I liked their feel too.

I got a fresh set of RB74's installed front and rear about 2 months ago (discs were also machined) and I have had nothing but squeal from them. I have taken the car back multiple times and had the pads and discs cleaned up and also the shims adjusted, even a special spray put on the discs. The noise was better for about a week but after the spray weared off the noise came back. The guy who installed my pads said that my car is the first he has installed RB74's on that has made noise. I'm going to put some of that CRC disc quiet red goo on and hopefully that sorts it. It is driving me insane and is also quite embarassing. I have also had a set of Ultimates and they were dreadful. They were very noisy and chewed into my rotors.

[Beer Baron]

how are the calipers? if the dust seals, or piston guide seals are worn that could be giving you squeal too. do you have the 2 shims per pad and grease between each shim?

[Modena]

The red goo definately helps! Just make sure not to put any on the rotors or the front of the brake pads.

[nuffsaid]

So if you have a setup like this:

rotor -- pad -- shim1 -- shim2 -- caliper

Where does this CRC goo stuff go? between the pad and shim1, between shim1 and shim2, and between shim2 and caliper?

[Beer Baron]

yep you want it to look like this:

pad backing - grease - shim 1 (full size) - grease - shim 2 (usually cut) - grease - pistons.

you can use any high temp grease like copper grease is good, or some people use moly grease (i don't) or you can shell out for the anti brake squeal stuff.

make sure you don't get grease all over the pad friction surface or the rotor, give the rotor a clean with some brake cleaner or carby cleaner before you put the rims back on.

[nuffsaid]

And do you completely cover the entire surface area for each part?

BB: have you used Endless SSM's? supposedly they are like the SSS but have been designed with low dust in mind, lower than the SSS.

Thanks

[Beer Baron]

don't go too nuts with it. you don't want any grease right near the edges, but a good coating focussing on areas where the piston touches the pad (or shim in this case).

haven't tried the SSM, but they i wouldn't hesitate to buy them for a road car. if the SSS were good i imagine the SSM are probably just a bit more street oriented.

[Modena]

And do you completely cover the entire surface area for each part?

BB: have you used Endless SSM's? supposedly they are like the SSS but have been designed with low dust in mind, lower than the SSS.

Thanks

Yes cover the entire area with a thin layer.

[MrStabby]

So if you have a setup like this:

rotor -- pad -- shim1 -- shim2 -- caliper

Where does this CRC goo stuff go? between the pad and shim1, between shim1 and shim2, and between shim2 and caliper?

IIRC the most critical is caliper (actually the piston). I read somewhere that the noise is generated there. I think i did;

pad - goo - shim1 - some old grease that was still there - shim2 - goo - piston. The goo just ends up working like glue.

[JonesyGTR]

G'Day guys,

After reading through this thread I am looking to go the Endless SSS brake pads. I have new front rotors for my R32 GTR that are dimpled and slotted. Will be replacing the pads all around. Where can I pick up these pads from?

Is this a good choice guys? Only really street driving, with the occasional 'squirt'. Minimal, if any, track time.

Cheers!

Dan

[PMATT]

Just some info that we will be suppliers of the new Bendix SRT pads.

Street Road Track is what they are and will sell for around $250 a set.

Edited April 5, 2007 by PMATT

[Paradizzle]

Whats the damage for some front SSS pads?

[Onthehunt]

Whats the damage for some front SSS pads?

i am about a month away from going fro endless sss pads all round and thinking of getting from nengun.com as not in rush(been told to be prepared to wait a while) and they are cheaper.

http://www.nengun.com/endless/super-street-s-sports

[dan.1337]

very interesting read as i need new pads soon too.

just wondering if anyone knows a ball park figure of how much the RB74's are for a front set?

[siddr20]

I got some endless pads in the rear (not to sure of exact model- got it free from my mechanic).. anyways they squeak hard-core at times..

Maybe they are high temp rated.. But im gonna use them on track day, and maybe just swap or sell them afterwards? n go back to standard nissan pads!! they do the job well for normal street driving..

Edited May 17, 2007 by siddr20

[tjandriesen]

I've been running Nismo S-Tune pads for about a month & a half. Have been very solid on the track and street. Good cold performance. Sqeek a bit and the only time they have generate much brake dust is driving to and from DECA (long drive, highways speeds).