Help With My New Car

[zorb_rules]

Hi Guys I just brought my first skyline an r33 gtst a few weeks ago..

IM lookign for some advice on modifications etc... ideally Im hoping for around 180-190kw atw however im sure as I say that once I achieve it ill want more..

Now this isnt my first turbo car so I have some idea of the work required.

Modifications wise now the car currently doesnt have much has:

17" AVS Rims with 235/45 tyres up front and 255/40 on the rear

Standard Exhaust (soon to be replaced with a full 3" system including split dump and hi flow cat.)

POD Filter In Perspex Airbox

Turbosmart Plumback BOV

GFB Boost Controller running 10psi

C's Short SHift Kit

Now all this stuff was on the car when I brought it and my first modification will definately be the exhaust

Now I have a few questions lol sorry about my essay.

Will I require a larger turbo for these power figures or will a stock or hi flowed one be capable?

IS a 3" zorst big enough?

Producing that kind of power I dont really have to look at forged internals etc do I??

Im Hoping to Go aftermarket engine management in either the form of Wolf3d, Microtech or Haltech are these ok and can anyone make a better recommendation?

Currently the car has a stock suspension setup I was lookign at coilovers but not sure of the practicability of them since the car will mostly be for street use..Will a decent strut, spring,sway bar, strut bar package be enough? And if so recommendations?

Finally what else do I have to take into consideration when looking at this power and any other suggestion with parts etc??

Also and good tuning shops after spending most of the day down at RE Customs and having be there a few other times I liek their work and the way the guys look after the cars?

[cln]

fuelpump, exhaust, fmic, turbs to 12psi will net you 190-200kw, r34 turbs might net you 200-210 on a happy dyno

3" is good enuffish for 300kw(pushing it) so unless your gonna build a beast your fine

once you do all this your pushing your engine past its stock recomendations, could blow in 10 days or 10 years, but 200kw is nothing for the 25, once you hit 250kw+ let it cross your mind

if you can, get your hands on a rb25 pfc if not you can always safc it or if you already have a tuner in mind see what he specializes in

suspension, sydneykids setup is tried and tested, see here

oh get some decent tires and make sure your brakes arnt in shit ass condition

hf

[eugen_syd]

Before you start pushing the engine...my first question is you have a front mounted intercooler? IT'S A MUST. If not...your turbo will not last long as you boost it. You'll see. I have 300kw at wheels and I upgraded in stages. I personally would use standard turbo until goes off, or alternatively you take it off and sell it and buy a better version. How long you wanna have your car off road?

PM me if you like and I take you trough my stages.

I had 191kw at wheel with single stage boost control, front intercooler, standard computer standard exhaust, HKS T3/T4e turbo, external wastegate HKS and HKS mainfold(kit). I had to upgrade the down pipe.

Question is you wanna make noise or power?

Cheers,

EUG

[Al]

- fmic (quality matters)

- Std turbo @ 12psi (be prepared to pay for hi-flow, just incase the turbo fails, due to the ceramic exhaust wheel flying off. Mine lasted at least 2yrs and i sold it after i took it off, others have lasted 1hour)

- ECU = Many options and it all depends on who you want to work on your car.

- I have heard good thing about Ray (and his team) at RE Customs. He likes to tune Power FC's

- I have seen great work from Robert @ Sabbadin. He is great with facbrication and modification, knows his RB's well and is an awesome tunner on Wolf and PowerFC ecu's. He is very fussy about his work and take pride in the finished result.

- Personally i use a Wolf 3D V4, on my 33, and it is great. The Wolf 3D V500 shits all over the Pfc, Microtech and Haltech, it is MAP or MAF compatable, and is compairable to the MOTEC ecu's.

- Upgraded fuel pump is also recommended.

- DEFINATELY UPGRADE SUSPENSION. The Bilsteins mentioned above are great for street use, are very comfortable and handle well even on the track. I personally am about to use TEIN Super Street, they have 32 damper adjustments to change the stiffness of the shock, from soft (for hwy/street), to hard (for track use). If you intend to occationally go through the twisties, etc, then suspension is one of the most important items, EVEN B4 YOU BUY THE ECU!

- BRAKES: No need to go too serious hear. A pair of slotted rotors for the front (eg:DBA4000), quality pads and most important BRAKE FLUID (eg:Motul SBF600). Once again when you go through the twisties, you want to make sure you brakes don't get too hot and fade, ending you day short.

My recommended order of modifications:

- Exhaust

- High quality air filter in standard air box (good to about 220rwkw)

- FMIC

- Coilovers

- Whiteline Handling Pack; with additonal front camber adj bushes and rear sub-frame pinapples.

- Brakes; slotted rotors, performance pads and performance fluid

- ECU

- Boost controller

- Braided brake lines (Make sure they are ADR approved)

If you have any further question, etc, don't hesitate to drop me a PM

Good Luck and safe driving

[khunjeng]

the std breaks are not too bad unless ur going on th etrack. Just get some new fluid and some decent pads initailly.

ECU has to be up higher on the list...unless ur doing a re-map who cant really do shit witht he stock ecu.

1. Zorst, turbo back

2. ecu + cheep boost controller. $22 ftw initially, nice EBC later to hold boost better.

3. hi-flo or equiv turbo + fmic - at the same time. Will need a new AFM to run the bigger numbers and either a pod or new intake pipe for the stock box.

5. suspension. shocks, springs, sway bars, pineapples - do this all at once and get it set right.

if u wanna run to 250, then 1-3 is definate. If you wanna be able to drive it fast then 1-4 is a must.

Then you will find ur coil packs and plugs are crap. And buy new ones - another $650

Clutch will not last - $1k-2k

GB and Diff should be fine.

You might like some nice wheels...always looks good.

[zorb_rules]

Thanks guys I appreciated all the replies too date I have approx 3-5grand laid out for starting mods reckong this will be enough to net my 190kw mark??

I already have an exhaust on the way so thats fine, boost controller I have a crappy single stage so it will do for now..

So I figure next should be the front mount and some sort of aftermarket ecu..

Now my next questions Ive heard that with nearly all the front mounts the body of the car needs to be cut to fit piping with of course means mr plod doesnt like it..any options here?

[dezz]

Now my next questions Ive heard that with nearly all the front mounts the body of the car needs to be cut to fit piping with of course means mr plod doesnt like it..any options here?

Blitz/ARC/Apex-i cross flow kits

[R31Nismoid]

The best mod, SAU-Vic stickers... and im serious

[zorb_rules]

Joined up at the dyno day

[zorb_rules]

Adding on to this is it worthwhile upgrading to the z32 afm of will mine be fine for the power Im lookign for??

[Sass]

Joined up at the dyno day

posting out stickers (and other goodies) tonight

[SABBAi]

Adding on to this is it worthwhile upgrading to the z32 afm of will mine be fine for the power Im lookign for??

This is not as simple as plugging it in and driving away. To do this you either have to be running a full aftermarket setup, or a Power FC. The Z32 is not required for 200kw atw mark.

In your Case Andy, This is the way I would go about modifications.

GET IT SERVICED.

Check timing belt has been replaced. Change all fluids and belts, etc. No point leaning on a basically stock engine if something simple is going to break ruining all your fun.

Then fit the exhaust. As others have said, get some proper suspension into it and some decent pads and fluid. Get a feel for the car first. Find out how the car handles, what it's limitations are as well aswhat yours are. An ideal way to do this is to do an advanced driving course, such as This.

Then start chasing power.

[zorb_rules]

I will sign up for the driving course probs once IM certified as a member..if theres still spots left.. Thanks Scottie Ottie

On the topic of serviced im not sure if I should trust the old family mechanic any good options??

My step bro works with Ford (i dont trust em for shit)

I also have mates at both Nispro and APS but not sure about that either..

and I know NIssan will butt rape me

So any good suggestions...

Edited March 26, 2007 by zorb_rules

[dezz]

I had my car serviced at my mum's mechanic a few times....these things aren't supercars....changing oil and plugs is the same as on any other car.. Now I just do oil and plugs myself, and i'm hardly mr mechanical

[zorb_rules]

Yeah lol I kno that but I kinda of liek the idea of having the one mechanic see my car over and over I dont want somethin major to go wrong and my lil family mechanic have to do soemthin like rebuild an engine.. when he is used to working on holdens and fords lol.. I had enough trouble getting him to remove the turbo and stuff off my precious car lol

[Al]

What suburb you live in?

[zorb_rules]

Im from round the ringwood area..but if I can find a decent mechanic Im always happy to travel

[zorb_rules]

Another quick question these cross flow kits.. where do I get them from went down to autobarn today they had no idea...

[Al]

- Sabbadine Automotive

- RE Customs

- Racepace

[blu3chip]

any good fmic's to recommend? reliable, branded, and reasonably priced!