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Hey guys, just trying to figure out which of these tyres would be best for me. I will be taking my car to a few track days so i would like the tyres to be not too bad on the track aswell.

The tyres i have in mind are Toyo T1-R's, Dunlop SP9000, Bridgestone S03, and Hankook R-S2 Z212.

Im currently running some crappy WANLI tyres which i need to change.

They will be going on 17x9 VOLKS and the tyre size i want is 235/45/17.

Also, before anyone asks i have read the tyre thread where people have rated the tyres.

Mike.

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I can't offer an opinion as to which tyres are best on the track, but I can give you a bit of an idea of what to look for:

1. Stiff sidewalls. You will get more body roll on a street tyre than on an R compound tyre. Stiff sidewalls help prevent this.

2. Fewer circumferential grooves in the tyre. Basically the tread blocks will chunk on the tyres if you are having a good go on the track. They tear away from the outside of any tread blocks. Therefor the fewer "outsides" you have the bettter off you will be.

3. Don't worry so much about compounds. But nonetheless the hardness of the treadface is an indicator. You tend to damage them more by chunking them than by wearing them.

Not to put too fine a point on it road tyres are a bit of a disaster on the track. You will have much more fun if the budget can stretch to a proper R compound. or even some of the less sticky half house measures like the Falkens which feel ok but don't deliver the lap times.

Lastly if you are going to the track get yourself a good pressure gauge (Not a ghey one from Supercheap or wherever) & a pyrometer. By measuring the tread temperature at three points across the face of the tyre you can determine the correct pressure by ensuring the difference between the outside & the middle measurement is the same as the difference between the inside & the middle. You won't get all three the same on a road car simply because it wont have enough -ve camber.

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i run potenza G3 (set down from S03), and i have done a few track days (mc/drag and drift) and found them to grip great althou once they were getting low on tread and started to heat up i could easily spin them up (found this out from a drift day, i spun out so i keep my foot on the gas smoke it up hard then for the rest of my laps the tires lost afair bit of grip).

i will most likely upgrading to the S03 when these one die as they dont make anything bigger than 235 in g3 :P

cheers michael

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Unless you dont drive your car often, or its making spactic amounts of power you dont really want R compound tyres, they are expencive normally noisy, wear quickly, and some of the tread patterns they come in arent all that great in the wet.

So for road tyres Id go with the Dunlop Sport Maxx, which is the replacement to the SP9000s. I've got the SP9000s on the front of the car, and the Sport Maxx on the rear. With about 155rwkw, and a 2 way diff in the wet I cant spin 2nd gear unless I clutch dump in the revs. They are a good road tyre.

For track days thats where you buy a cheap set of rims (heaps about) and get the good tyres on them. So you only use them when you need to.

That said, if your filthy rich, got spastic amounts of power, and or dont drive the car that often, just go R compound :)

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I run toyo t1rs on the front..

Before this i was using advan ad07s all round.. However the fronts didnt have much thread left.. BUT i loved the rubbers.. Grip was still supurb

Anyways if you can afford ad07s then go for them.. Trust me.. But will be over 400 each :sick:

Still runnin the advan ad07s on the rear and love them..

Anyways back to toyo t1rs.. They grip well and the thread is lasting for ages..

Im actually going on a track day in a months time.. So i will test out the t1rs ..

But to be honest, get your suspension gear all done!! Sway bars, good shocks and springs, castor rods etc etc.. This will help a lot more around the track..

But if you had to choose out of the list you have given us, then i would go for the t1rs.. Well priced and grip well!!

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I run toyo t1rs on the front..

Before this i was using advan ad07s all round.. However the fronts didnt have much thread left.. BUT i loved the rubbers.. Grip was still supurb

Anyways if you can afford ad07s then go for them.. Trust me.. But will be over 400 each :sick:

Still runnin the advan ad07s on the rear and love them..

Anyways back to toyo t1rs.. They grip well and the thread is lasting for ages..

Im actually going on a track day in a months time.. So i will test out the t1rs ..

But to be honest, get your suspension gear all done!! Sway bars, good shocks and springs, castor rods etc etc.. This will help a lot more around the track..

But if you had to choose out of the list you have given us, then i would go for the t1rs.. Well priced and grip well!!

Hey mate, thanks for the reply. I have already got the full whiteline/bilstein kit in the car so that area is ok. A few people have mentioned that the sidewalls on the T1-Rs are very soft and weak. Do yours feel like this?

Also, has anyone tried the new HANKOOK R-S2 Z212's? Ive been looking at them and they look pretty good.

Mike.

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try reading wheels (motor?) magazine latest edition they've just done a tyre test. don't have mine anymore otherwise i'd quote results. when you look at the rankings you'll see there is really stuff all between them. you could argue that a tyre that stops more quickly than another is worth getting even at extra $ but then you might also find that tyre has less dry cornering grip; theyre all a compromise to some extent.

not as much of an upset as last time when the Maxxis Victra was found to be very competitive overall at significantly less $, bt interesting anyway.

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i have S02's on the front on my 32 and GIII's on the back the the S02's are absolutly amazing!! i can have the ass hanging out facing the gutter and bring it back and there still hanging on up front i can believe how good they grip im yet too find the edge of them, so i cant imagine how good the S03's would be im getting them next ill put S02's on the back and S03's up front.

what i can tell you when i was a bridgy gettin my s02's on there was a club sport in there gettin S03's all round and they broke there good machine that puts the tyres of the rim bcoz there side walls are so tough.... so luckily the pried them on with the shit machine!!

S03's FOR THE WIN!!!!! :)

good luck

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