Budget $4k, Goal 300kw, Turbo?

[DREMEN]

Ok I have a series 1 R33 GTS25T skyline

I have a budget of $4k

Already have a TRUST FMIC and exhaust...

So now I need a BIG turbo

Fuel Pump, etc...

What turbo do you suggest i buy?

[Al]

Before you buy your BIG turbo have a read of this: Programable ECU Vs Factory ECU

This is very important and can save your engine, but the choice is yours. A programmable ecu also extracts a lot more potential from your stock turbo and the bigger turbo.

Do you already have; the fuel pump, rising fuel regulator, injectors, min. 3" exhaust from turbo back with hi-flow cat. and muffler, H/D clutch, etc? If your are missing any of the previous get these first as your 4K will not get you far without them.

With 300rwkw you will also require forged pistons, conrods, etc., if you want a reliable engine.:uh-huh:

my 2c,

GOOD LUCK!

Alan

[T0nyGTSt]

You be better off improving the driveability of your stock turbo.

T.

[benm]

I think $4k won't be enuff to get you to 300rwkw. Do you also have $4k for the suspension/handling setup because you will need it in order to put that 300rwkw to the ground.

You gotta be thinking 50% power and 50% how the heck am i gonna use that power not just boost boost booooost.

Edit: btw pm on icq again i think i lost your uin.

Edit2: Now that I think about it

Suspension - $1500

PowerFC - $1800

Tyres - $1200

= $4500

and you would be doing well to get 200-210rwkw from that. Your going to need atleast a $7-8k budget i think.

[Al]

And the rest!

Do yourself a favour and do some more research, this will SAVE you alot of money down the track.

[Steve]

300rwkw for 4K, I wish life was so kind.

You have cooler and exhaust, you will need:

Clutch (twin plate) $1200 plus fitting

Injectors $1k

Fuel pump $300 plus fit

ECU fitted and tuned $1.5k plus

EBC $500

Turbo $2k

fit turbo(new lines) $500

New manifold $1200+

Dump pipe $350

Wastegate (perhaps depends on turbo) $5-700

Pipe from pod to turbo $150

Fuel pressure reg $150

Now you have a problem with either:

Rebuild bottom end inlcuding remove and replace engine: $7k+

or

Head gasket to decompress engine $600+

Fit head gasket $300.

It would also be nice to do the cams and cam gear, add $1.5k

This is without upgrading any suspension or wheels which you will definately need to do. You could probably get away without major brake upgrades, but expect to need some decent pads and upgrade your brake fluid to dot 5.1

Add another $1.5k plus.

If you want to maximise your $4k -

get some decent coilovers, and swaybars. Any power you make can be optimised by getting it to the ground well, without decent suspension you will find with 300rwkw, that cars with much lower power will hand you your arse.

Get a decent ECU - power fc, or if you want cheaper, the e-manage is cheap enough that you can get it fitted and tuned for about 1.5k. Add an EBC and you will have a different car. You would probably at this stage be wise to do your clutch, IF it is still holding, it wont for long. A button clutch should do the trick, or an upgraded organic - hopefully, if you shop around, your funds might just cover this much.

[Soulja]

300kw what is that in hp.

If i was 1st i would get the block pro tune so u can crank some killa hp and the car can handle it.

Also u better upgrand brakes and all that shit first no point having a fast car if you can only turn a coner at 20km and takes 100m to stop the car when u r going 100km.

By the way does you car have a saftycutout best get that removed before u add hp

[Soulja]

Originally posted by Steve

300rwkw for 4K, I wish life was so kind.

You have cooler and exhaust, you will need:

Clutch (twin plate) $1200 plus fitting

Injectors $1k  

Fuel pump $300 plus fit  

ECU fitted and tuned $1.5k plus

EBC $500

Turbo $2k

fit turbo(new lines) $500

New manifold $1200+

Dump pipe $350

Wastegate (perhaps depends on turbo) $5-700

Pipe from pod to turbo $150

Fuel pressure reg $150

ahaha life is tough with a turbo car, only going to cost me around $5,000 -> $10,000 to pull a nice 500rwph on my 88 vette (when it comes)

[Sydneykid]

Common soulja, "ahaha life is tough with a turbo car, only going to cost me around $5,000 -> $10,000 to pull a nice 500rwph on my 88 vette (when it comes)"

Plus $5K per year in fibreglass flexing repairs......

Bin there dun that

[rev210]

I think maybe people missed your question (maybe I did tho').

If you are asking what turbo to buy with a 'final goal' of 300rwkw.

[Soulja]

Originally posted by Sydneykid

Common soulja, "ahaha life is tough with a turbo car, only going to cost me around $5,000 -> $10,000 to pull a nice 500rwph on my 88 vette (when it comes)"

Plus $5K per year in fibreglass flexing repairs......

Bin there dun that

more like $3,000 for body parts + shipping + import tax + installtion + repainting = $$$$$$ more like $10,000

[predator]

I'd lower your expectation and go for 250rwkw to start with.. if you get that, then you can start budgeting for 300rwkw+ later on. The reason i say that is that 250 it seems a lot more achieveable is that a lot more people reach that goal without touching the internals (if you're fairly lucky), and without running massive boost.

If you get (or at least quite close to it) 250rwkw, you might be able to get by with your standard injectors (save $600-$800), a cheaper clutch, cheaper turbo (highflow, or GT30) , and lots of things.

There seems to be a lot of disagreement that u can in fact do it... But i am sure $4k budget is achievable.. for at least 250rwkw anyway.

250rwkw will be a bitch if u floor it off the line I'd say, but you will notice that extra power without having to too nuts on full aftermarket suspension and things.. some pineapples and at least some good rubber for your rears (why go four 4 expensive tyres where its a RWD afterall) is a start. That should get you into the 12s bracket if 1/4 mile is your thing - as long as you can drive well.

If you get the power then find you hate how its delivered then I guess you consider the other bits - don't go too nuts all at once.

[benm]

Originally posted by predator666

don't go too nuts all at once.

Good advice, could you imagine jumping from ~180rwkw to ~250rwkw hell i'd wanna have 4 pairs of undies let alone going ~180rwkw to ~300rwkw.

[predator]

haha, indeed.. My next goal is to jump to 240rwkw from around 185rwkw which i am sure i will notice.. just funding probs I was estimating around $3k-4k, including a few "sell offs" (old turb, S-AFC, etc).

[benm]

Im stayping put at 203rwkw for a little while. Starting to work on actually putting that to the ground and also stopping.

Pickup my new DBA Club Spec Rotors today (dremen take note) and also next on my list is a set of FM901's in another month or so (hopefully before rego).

[Steve]

Originally posted by predator666

There seems to be a lot of disagreement that u can in fact do it... But i am sure $4k budget is achievable.. for at least 250rwkw anyway.  

Please give us a run down on how you would achieve this.

250rwkw will be a bitch if u floor it off the line I'd say, but you will notice that extra power without having to too nuts on full aftermarket suspension and things..  

Have you driven a 250rwkw skyline with sock suspesion and wheels? Dude, even with 200rwkw and a decent power band, you will have dramas with stock wheels and suspension. 250rwkw would be an absolute danger to yourself and everyone else on the road.

IMO, this is one way you end up with lethal cars on the road, building an engine, but not taking care of the rest - very, very dangerous. Beside that, what would be the point in having a car that if you try and drive it at any more than old mole pace, you just go around in circles. I have seen this done with a old ford 351 GT. The novelty runs out pretty quickly when your car cant safely be taken out of the street and into traffic. Have you ever tried to corner a car (from a stand still) that has no traction?

But please Predator, I would be really interested in hearing how you could achieve what you are suggesting.

[Guest INASNT]

I am upgrading to about 250-270rwkw at the moment and i have budgeted around 5.5k (which included selling of my old parts), outright its costing me around 7.5k for the initial outlay and thats without forget psiton, short penned rods, portedhead, new cams or any other engine work.

[RNS11Z]

Originally posted by benm

Good advice, could you imagine jumping from ~180rwkw to ~250rwkw hell i'd wanna have 4 pairs of undies let alone going ~180rwkw to ~300rwkw.

well i jumped from an N/A (105kw @ fly) n14 sss to a 360rwhp skyline

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by RNS11Z

well i jumped from an N/A (105kw @ fly) n14 sss to a 360rwhp skyline

and u r still alive how?

[RNS11Z]

well when i turned 16 my 1st car was a 13sec rx2, when i got my p's i had a 11.3 sec rx3 coupe... then again my dads an ex drag racer so he taught me how to drive well + driving lessons and driver training courses and close incidents teach people alot.