Budget $4k, Goal 300kw, Turbo?

[T0nyGTSt]

The 2835 is high mount IIRC so your budget goes up substantially.

Put it this way... when GT-R's outgrow dual 2530's and even 2540's - they either go single or dual 2835's.

T.

[Steve]

Single 2835 produces less than twin 2530s. The 2835 comes in a version with T3 flange and internal gate that would bold onto the stock R33 manifold.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Steve

Single 2835 produces less than twin 2530s.  The 2835 comes in a version with T3 flange and internal gate that would bold onto the stock R33 manifold.

do they?

new they would be around 6g, and i would be veryyyyy hard to find 1 second hand with T3 flange i recon

[predator]

6g tho denham...you'd have one of melb's fastest road weapons.. u know u wanna..

[predator]

hey its just $$. And u r only young once.

haha.. don't forget this is coming from a guy who has recently lost his license for 12 months.. and he wants more power :lol:

On the power difference thing.. for the last couple of days i've had to drive a 1.5L lancer and 2.4L (?) Magna each with about 40fwkw (if that).. man, going back is a hard thing i tell you.. its like a whole different world.. so sllooooww

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by predator666

haha.. don't forget this is coming from a guy who has recently lost his license for 12 months.. and he wants more power :lol:

I havent lost it yet!

And there is 2 many other weapons on the road with owner with way more $$ than i will ever have, so no point trying to match em

[JNR24]

Originally posted by raist60

Rev210 Are you serious? 300rwkws for 4 grand. Anyone who goes down this road is gonna have a motor that lasts a week.

1 thing ive learnt with these cars is DONT CUT ****ING CORNERS!

Be realistic and dont go building a half assed car.. Make sure you do it properly

TOTALY AGREE!

You only get what you pay for. If you pay 4K for 300KWs, there not going to last long, and your going to have no fun when you relise that you flushed 4K on bolt'ons.

Spend the 4K on the motor:

- Computer ($1500

- Injectors (work on $125 per injector/if you shop, about 800ISH)

- pump ($400 cheapy)

- Mild head work & cams (1K cams) (300ISH on head)

[predator]

And there is 2 many other weapons on the road with owner with way more $$ than i will ever have, so no point trying to match em

Dunno about that.. if u had 300+ rwkw there is not much out there that would touch you in melb. u might give GTRs a bit of a run if u can drive well. most skylines around are all show and no go or around what me and u got at the moment (less than 200rwkw).. not too many people go that extra mile..

Remember that nutz 390rkw GTS-T that one those dyno comps last weekend? well I don't know of many others than mattlow's R33 that have too much over 300rwkw in an R33 GTS-T in Melbourne.

if u can play with the internals u can always stick something fun like NOS on there

[Guest INASNT]

matt, bigpsi, nigels 400rwkw surpa, ben from racepaces 480rwkw GTR, leewahs 380rwkw GTR are a few quickies i can think of.

Then there r those quick old school V8's going around 2, the drag ones that are street registered and just get driven at night!

stock internals can handle about 60hp wet fogger nos system!

[Frosty]

definetly agree with these guys

go the suspension to get the power to the ground

ive got like nearly $5k of suspension and i still get trouble with traction and not a great deal has been done to my car

but ist your $4k so yeah

let us know what you decide be good to find out what you do as im think about spending the tax check in a few months all on the car

cya

[rev210]

Originally posted by JNR24

TOTALY AGREE!

You only get what you pay for. If you pay 4K for 300KWs, there not going to last long, and your going to have no fun when you relise that you flushed 4K on bolt'ons.

If the stock engine is tuned right 300kw will hang together quite well. The standard internals have ben known to handle this amount of power. Then again plenty of RB25's have let go at less than 200rwkw because of a crap tune or maintence.Also depends on what sort of life the engine has had and how many kms are already on it.

Irrespective of what you do to the internals more power will accelerate wear, a 500HP engine needs rebuilding more than twice as often as a 250HP engine, and it doesn't matter if you have forged pistons and rods etc, the bearings and rings will always wear out. If I ever decided to build a 500HP engine I'd expect to rebuild it (bearings and rings etc) in 60,000kms or less to save me having to buy a whole new set of forgies and things.It's just what you do.

It's quite true that 'you get what you pay for'....

...It just that alot of people don't know they are paying to get F#cked

[Steve]

300rwks seems to be done alot in Japan on stock internals, no I have never seen this, but I have it on several sources from people that have - the one thing they have in common is a metal head gasket to decompress the engine. This is to prevent detonation - which will kill any engine.

I read on a post of Merli's somewhere that he has been putting down 280rwkw for some time on stock internals and hasnt had any dramas yet.

I realise a metal head gasket is a bit of a quick fix, but if it works well - 1k (gasket fitted) versus many thousands - at the end of the day if the bottom end goes, just build a 3L to replace it. A 3L short motor is rediculously cheap.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Frosty

definetly agree with these guys  

go the suspension to get the power to the ground

ive got like nearly $5k of suspension and i still get trouble with traction and not a great deal has been done to my car

but ist your $4k so yeah  

let us know what you decide be good to find out what you do as im think about spending the tax check in a few months all on the car

cya

already got blistern springs and shock and just got some pineapples.

steve

hook me up with a place where i can get the 2835 with T3 flange

[Steve]

http://www.greenline.jp/catalogue/btlist.p...php?type=engine

you want the 2835 pro. drop a line to simon (the australian rep) at [email protected] he's a pretty helpful guy.

[Majanal]

For High Flowed stock if your thinking of going that way try Just Jap in Kiriwee NSW. (02) 9545 0532. I think it was about $1500 exchange.

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Steve

http://www.greenline.jp/catalogue/btlist.p...php?type=engine

you want the 2835 pro. drop a line to simon (the australian rep) at [email protected] he's a pretty helpful guy.

thanks

i know the 3037 pro s also has a T3 flange connection, but i wonder if there is enough room near the stock manifold for 1 that big!

i could see this in my ar quite easily

[Steve]

Not too sure exactly how much room there is, worse case scenario though would be an adapter required.

They are a nice looking turbo, pity with the stock manifold you wouldnt get to see too much of it.

[Cubes]

Damn thats a big picture.

[predator]

matt, bigpsi, nigels 400rwkw surpa, ben from racepaces 480rwkw GTR, leewahs 380rwkw GTR are a few quickies i can think of. [/quote

yes...but GTS-T ?? and these guys mostlyi all work in performance shops..which helps..

depends what u want inasnt.. nutty dragger or street car..u are aiming for both..if u do it well then u do well, its all in the research which u have been doing (**** i paid denham a compliment..oops)

[Sydneykid]

Hi guys, let's not forget about weight, a 1,700 kg 400 rwkw Supra is hardly going to be any faster accelerating than a 300 rwkw R32 GTST. Pretty much same for a GTR, except it will at least have maybe a traction advantage. But it will loose a lot more power through the 4wd.

Hi predator666, ask ben, nigel and leewah how many k's they drive their cars a year? And whether they drive them everyday? What's the good of a fast car if you don't drive it? Sit and look at it and brag about the dyno sheet? Dyno heroes are simply not my thing.

There's a 900 bhp engine in the machine shop right now. Lucky to do 2,000 kilometres in the next year, and it will need a $3K rebuild after that anyway. Waste of $20K I say.

For a road GTST, I reckon around 260 rwkw is a nice reliable daily driver that will see off 99.9% of all cars it sees. For a GTR about 300 rwkw is OK, due to the extra traction and higher weight it has to carry. Everytime I talk to someone that has had that level of power, and then went much higher, they lament the compromises they now have to make. Not to mention the poorer dollar per horsepower return.

Hope that adds to the discussion.