2007 Queensland 500 Club Enduro 2nd June 2007

[MountainRunner]

Hey guys I was out there this afternoon, looked like a great event. Saw some amazing machinery on the circuit and in the pits.

51jay, I also saw you guys out on track looking good. What was the final result ?

[51jay]

Hey guys I was out there this afternoon, looked like a great event. Saw some amazing machinery on the circuit and in the pits.

51jay, I also saw you guys out on track looking good. What was the final result ?

It was a faster race than last year, finnished 20minutes earlier Porches 1 to 7.

We were around 6 or 7 secconds a lap quicker than last year. Unfortunately though the Skyline was great the EBC Red Stuff was sadly lacking. We lasted just under half way , the front pads were down to the metal and a piston popped out too far, losing fluid ....no brakes at 200Kph coming into turn 3. Fortunately a few pumps gave enough to get around 3 but then they were completly gone.

Mick brought it in with the fronts burning merrily away.

We were very pleased with the Skyline though, neutral handling with just a touch of understeer....and much quicker round the track.

Next year ....same time same place....we'll be there

[r33_racer]

Yeh i also made it out there...i was up in the tower next to the commentary team. Great view up top, you can see everything. Didnt those damn porches take up the whole front line? Damn they were quick. Was good to see atleast one skyline there representing. Excellent work guys. How did you guys go overall? When i was watching you were around 13-16th which was good considering the field.

[Whiplash]

Good to hear you are making some progress on the car, looks like there were a few more cars than last year on track.

if it was the Red 430 it was Millers, not a bad effort as it looked pretty bad the weekend before. I will have to speak to Wayne and find out how their race went. Not sure why he didn't drive one of his cars (probably not fixed yet after 200Kph crash at winton)

[r33_racer]

at winton? i thought it was from the shannons gt production car race at QR the weekend prior?

Funnily enough millers 430 isnt that quick. He would be a little annoyed as a few weeks prior i was at their workshop at geebung and they were just fitting new radiators out front which im guessing got smashed in. sucks.

[51jay]

at winton? i thought it was from the shannons gt production car race at QR the weekend prior?

Funnily enough millers 430 isnt that quick. He would be a little annoyed as a few weeks prior i was at their workshop at geebung and they were just fitting new radiators out front which im guessing got smashed in. sucks.

The Ferrari didn't appear, neither did Wayne Parks.

Our brake failure was worse than we thought, the pad was down to the metal and the piston poppod right through the backing plate and ground its front off on the rotor...the rotor iscracked and the backing plate is allbent up around the piston. We were around 7 secs quicker than last year so I guess we woefully underestimated our brake requirements.

Mick was pretty lucky to get around turn 3 and bring the car in

[Whiplash]

at winton? i thought it was from the shannons gt production car race at QR the weekend prior?

Funnily enough millers 430 isnt that quick. He would be a little annoyed as a few weeks prior i was at their workshop at geebung and they were just fitting new radiators out front which im guessing got smashed in. sucks.

Millers was from the shannons nationals the weekend before, Wayne Hennig's GT2R was crashed at the Winton AMRS round (Wayne drove the Cooper 993 GT2)

Defiantly sounds like you need to upgrade or change the brakes. A few years back i had a bit to do with a GTP team running a subaru. In the 2hr race at the clipsal they ran out of brakes into the hairpin and ended up using the handbrake to get back to the pits. The discs were warped and cracked.

any idea on what you'll be upgrading to?

[51jay]

Yeay,Mick got it back on the handbrake.

We'll probably go for EBC Yellow and EBC Blue for next years Qld500.

We will also put in some ducting. Like to upgrade from DBA 4000 but they don't make the Series 5000 for the R33 so we'll have to see what is available.

[Duncan]

get a set of the just jap 8 pot brakes if your budget stretches to that they are excellent. And their race pads are only about 250 a set

[r33_racer]

dear son of rajab that is cheap for brake pads. What type of pad are they exactly? Composite wise?

[51jay]

dear son of rajab that is cheap for brake pads. What type of pad are they exactly? Composite wise?

Yes that's a good price. Fronts for the Skyline in EBC Yellow are $330 and the Blue another $100.

Do you have to use G4 pads with them ? any other makes fit them?. Their pads might be ok for a sprint meet , but what about Enduro ?

As of now we plan to replace the rotor with series 4000 put in EBC Yellow and concentrate on getting a decent airflow to them.

Then we continue getting weight off the car, there's a good gain still to be made here befor we start adding power

[Duncan]

dunno what the g4 generic race pads are, but they worked fine - this was for targa so they got plenty of beating up to 30min at a time for hundreds of race klm.

You can fit any pads made for the AP racing 6 pot calipers.

By comparison I paid $550 for the last set of front I bough (hawks) for the brembos, and they sucked anyway.

I reckon you are on the right plan staying away from lookoing for power....thats when it started getting expensive and unreliable for me - I look back to the good old days.

[MicK51]

Time for some pics!

This is the black beast that was kindly lent to us to pull the race car to the track (cheers Glen Z), made a good grand stand to

Jay tearing it up in the 1st stint

Me on my way to destroying the brakes and ending our race

The pad that melted...

and cracked our near new rotor

All in all i'm still happy with the event, we were 3secs faster than last year and able to lap at that pace consistantly. The car is handling really well now and is great fun to drive, but the best part was i was finally quicker than one of those damn wrx's!

Edited June 6, 2007 by MicK51

[Whiplash]

car looks good out on track,

thats a fair bit of damage on the disc there, should go carbon ceramic my mate swears by them in his 430 lol

must have been making some huge temps in there

[MountainRunner]

I agree, looks good on the circuit. Those brakes are scary. Hopefully you will have them sorted by next years event.

After talking to some guys and being out there, hopefully we will also have a team running to keep you company.

[51jay]

I agree, looks good on the circuit. Those brakes are scary. Hopefully you will have them sorted by next years event.

After talking to some guys and being out there, hopefully we will also have a team running to keep you company.

Hi Paul......that would be good, would you be running Skylines?? It would be nice to have some company. I suppose there will be even more Porsches next year, the beggers must breed like rabbits

[MountainRunner]

Yes Skylines is the plan. Just need to get organised. I know of two that are being built track worthy now. Hopefully they will be the basis of a team.

[r33_racer]

Sounds like everyone is slowly getting up and running now, another team would be good to see. Next year were hoping to actually race in the event rather then watch it. We had a team together this year but everyone got scared and discouraged by how much fuel and tyres and brakes we would use, plus the entry fee. But based off the times everyone was doing, out of the porsches only about 5-6 of them were actually quick.

[51jay]

It would be great to see more Skylines there. There are a lot of very potent Skylines around powerwise, and with a 4 car team they would only have to race for an hour each.

We tried to get another car to join us this year but no success.

We will be there again next year and we will be quicker again but with a pretty much stock engine we will not get close to the GT3s.

It is expensive, but well worth it. Cost us around $5000 all up this year, about same as last year. Fuel was about $400 for our 69 laps + Qualifying and gen practise on the Fri. A multicar team could halve the fuel cost by doing your own refueling. Allowable because you could let car cool down befor refilling. One Porsche came into the fuel point with his front brakes on fire and was really p*ssed off because they wouldn't refill him until they stopped burning.

It was a wrong choice of brake pads that stopped us this year, The Skyline was running like a train, and, I believe would have lasted the race again. Skylines can do it...no sweat.

We have entered twice now so anyone who is seriously thinking of entering next year feel free to chat to us about the event

[Duncan]

Yeah we've run 1 hour enduros in our cars and they survive it fine, the only real problem with a 1 hr stint is we are getting fuel surge in the last 5 minutes (esp in the long rt turn off the bridge at oran park).

Hope to see you up there with a few cars one day, there's nothing like knocking off 100 laps straight to learn a track