Aussie Tax On Large Items

[Topaz]

Not really sure where this should go...

I haven't imported any large items before but I am looking at clutches now and according to PerfectRun they are an 18Kg weight with a $240 cost to ship it to Australia. Will there be any other charges after that or does $240 cover everything?

cheers

[n15m0]

Custom taxes are your responsibility...you may or may not get hit with it sometimes depending on luck and also your purchase price/value of goods put down on the customs declaration by the seller..I believe if its over 1k you might get stung, but anything under may go through.

[SteveL]

Generally:

- if the item is valued at $250+ and you use an international courier to ship (ie UPS, Fedex, etc), you will be hit with customs duty, etc

- if you use ordinary air mail, parcel post, etc then the item can be worth up to $1000 before you get hit.

Note that I said 'generally' and you'd best check with customs first - there's plenty of info on their website.

[jonn]

18kg maybe a little too heavy for the post and will probably end up being sent by courier. As SteveL mentioned, if it's sent by courier it's will need to have a customs declaration and clearance.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

basically over $250 they will sting you if they feel like it... its up to them and there is no way to fight it.

it happened to me a few years ago... the worst part is that i live in Victoria and of course paid shipping TO MY DOOR

but as customs seized my goods ($300 worth of records) in QLD... i had to pay the bastards AGAIN to ship them down to vic

so be careful

[Topaz]

Crap, oh well, I ordered the clutch last night priced close to $1800 (including the 18Kg shipping charge), to my address.

I will let y'all know for future reference what I am stung with.... I'll be pissed if I get a call from Brisbane wanting another kidney for shipping to Perth

[Kaido_RR]

Crap, oh well, I ordered the clutch last night priced close to $1800 (including the 18Kg shipping charge), to my address.

I will let y'all know for future reference what I am stung with.... I'll be pissed if I get a call from Brisbane wanting another kidney for shipping to Perth

18kg is still within the ems limit (if i remember right 25kg max for air and 20kg max for sea). Any Tax you pay it base only one the value of the item itself (so doesnt inc the price you pay for shipping). What method did you ship the clutch? because $250 for shipping is cheap if it is sent by air

[Topaz]

18kg is still within the ems limit (if i remember right 25kg max for air and 20kg max for sea). Any Tax you pay it base only one the value of the item itself (so doesnt inc the price you pay for shipping). What method did you ship the clutch? because $250 for shipping is cheap if it is sent by air

PR ship using EMS, its usually fairly quick so I am guessing it will be air freight.

[SteveL]

PR ship using EMS, its usually fairly quick so I am guessing it will be air freight.

Doesn't matter how it arrives as you've stated above that it's worth $1800, so you will be hit with duty and GST. As I said, Oz customs website has all the info, see here:

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=5549

scroll to the bottom for an example calculation in terms of what you might expect to pay (be prepared to be reamed.......)

[Kaido_RR]

Doesn't matter how it arrives as you've stated above that it's worth $1800, so you will be hit with duty and GST. As I said, Oz customs website has all the info, see here:

http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=5549

scroll to the bottom for an example calculation in terms of what you might expect to pay (be prepared to be reamed.......)

no that is incorrect!

as i mention above. it goes on the value of the item, and does not inc any shipping fees or other buyer fees you pay. Also just because it is market over $1000 doesnt mean he will be hit with duty and GST....

Its a fact that not every time you will get STOP, so if the value is over $1000, you run the luck of not getting picked up but you also have a chance of having to pay tax.

ps. it is being sent by EMS AIR, just check and the price for 18kg is 22800yen (which works out to be about $250) and 9550yen for sea

ohh and i would be interested to know if you got stop or not let us know

ohhh and if it gets stop, except delays for when you will see it

[godzl1975]

agrees with the last post above

[SteveL]

no that is incorrect!

I suggest you you read the link and try a little comprehension regarding how duty and GST is calculated for items valued at $1k+ (the op has already indicated that the overall cost to him before import is $1800, which includes $240 for freight.....you do the math).

As to the rest of your post, I gather from your rather poor english that you are suggesting that the OP rely, basically, on pure dumb luck.......

[Kaido_RR]

I suggest you you read the link and try a little comprehension regarding how duty and GST is calculated for items valued at $1k+ (the op has already indicated that the overall cost to him before import is $1800, which includes $240 for freight.....you do the math).

As to the rest of your post, I gather from your rather poor english that you are suggesting that the OP rely, basically, on pure dumb luck.......

ok .... as i mention you are only tax on the value of the item... so yes it cost topaz 1800 in total but that inc 250 shipping cost. therefore the value which will be marked on the EMS form should be 1550 or most likely 141050yen (if it has 1800 marked down that is incorrect, and i have friends who have purchases items from the same company, and on the ems form the value is only the COST of the item itself without other fees)

Also as i said in my previous post (sorry if my english isn't the best lol ) you have a 50, 50 chance of getting caught or not.. its not"pure dumb luck" because the system works in a way that not every package is stopped...

im not trying to argue with you. im just trying to inform topaz of how the system works....

-michael

[Topaz]

Woah, heated topic....

I'm sure theres some complicated issues involved but rather than get confused I will just see what happens. Though in the back of my mind I am expecting it to be stopped.

P.S. I received an email from them today and they seem to be working on an old exchange rate or, are just decreasing the AUD value to get a bit more profit. I worked out the AUD:JPY to be $1:Y97.5 when its about Y99.3 at the moment and was Y98.8 the night I ordered it. No biggie though....

[Topaz]

Well, I hate to disappoint on the views of closer here but I only declared the item as costing $blarghAUD. I was asked what I wanted the declaration amount to be and I assume that, to avoid tax, lots of people do it . This does affect the insured cost as well though, so if the cost is significantly over $1000 its probably not a good option.

[bubba]

Be careful, if customs thinks it's iffy they can look into it and if they discover you declared lower you can get in BIG trouble.

Importing car parts sounds almost as hard as when I import firearms parts (except they won't get seized and destroyed if they don't like it) *smirk*

[Topaz]

Be careful, if customs thinks it's iffy they can look into it and if they discover you declared lower you can get in BIG trouble.

Should be ok, unless they are cluey on the cost of a clutch in Japan. I guess I wait for a big box covered in EMS stickers

[bubba]

Heh, if it's being shipped by a mob that provide tracking you should be able to see when it hits customs.. if it's still there after a few days then give them a call

[wrxhoon]

As SteveL pointed out above duty and GST is payable on all items that cost above $1000 ( invoice price). The use the exchange rate at the day of shipping ( the day it leaves the last Japanese port, sea or air) to culculate the Aussie $ value.

It it is over $1000 then you will pay 10% import duty on the total invoice value and any shipping cost INSIDE Japan, you add all that to the invoice value then add the shipping cost to AUS and you pay 10% GST on all that .

As you say you declared it at under $1000 so you should't pay anything but customs may pull you up and ask for an invoice and or proof of payment ( credit card electronic tranfer or any other paymaent that you made) . Now you can see why its not a good idea to declare it for lees than the invoice cost. Ahh and don't post it on a public forum either, you never know who is reading this !!!

More than likely you wont get pulled up but if you do you are in big trouble, people have had expensive cars confescated and prosecuted by customs. They loose the car pay the penalty ( could be jail)and they have a crimminal record . I hope it doesn't happen to you .

[260tech]

As SteveL pointed out above duty and GST is payable on all items that cost above $1000 ( invoice price). The use the exchange rate at the day of shipping ( the day it leaves the last Japanese port, sea or air) to culculate the Aussie $ value.

It it is over $1000 then you will pay 10% import duty on the total invoice value and any shipping cost INSIDE Japan, you add all that to the invoice value then add the shipping cost to AUS and you pay 10% GST on all that .

As you say you declared it at under $1000 so you should't pay anything but customs may pull you up and ask for an invoice and or proof of payment ( credit card electronic tranfer or any other paymaent that you made) . Now you can see why its not a good idea to declare it for lees than the invoice cost. Ahh and don't post it on a public forum either, you never know who is reading this !!!

More than likely you wont get pulled up but if you do you are in big trouble, people have had expensive cars confescated and prosecuted by customs. They loose the car pay the penalty ( could be jail)and they have a crimminal record . I hope it doesn't happen to you .

Jim Berry for president hey?