Super Pro Bushings

[noone]

Went to the only suspension shop worth going to in town last week for a little chat regarding the 32GTR and trying to get a decent wheel allignment camber adjustment on the rear and height of coil overs front to rear etc. etc. etc.

The guy is a grumpy c**t, but from all I have spoken to he is the MAN in town to speak to with all else a distant third.

Mentioned using whieline parts as per Sydneykids excellent group buy and recommended settings, He however stocks super pro bushings and claims they make whiteline gear anyway and unless I really want yellow bushings there is little other difference. When I suggested me supplying parts and him fitting alligning he said it wasnt worth it for him, and was sick off people trying to get stuff brought of the net installed and he made no money this way etc etc blah blah blah

Having worked in the trade I can sympathise to a degree and see his point etc. Also helps when the prices he quoted were actually very good. His attitude did PISS ME OFF though.

My question to all is are super pro bushings comparable to whiteline looking on there website it looks like resonable gear & my 32GTR is lowish 335 from memory centre off wheel to wheel arch at all four. Should I run the front at 145 rear at 135, higher. Do like the look sitting that low but want resonable handling for track days etc. Car is fitted with what I was led to believe were Bilstein coil overs so is height adjustable.

Sorry for the long rant just thought a little explanation would stop everyone posting buy Sydney Kids group buy type posts

Edited April 17, 2007 by noone

[Beer Baron]

yes they are comparable.

[Ronin 09]

thing that gets me -

a piece of moulded polyurethane is a piece of polyurethane.

if it's the same durometer, it doesn't matter if it is green, blue, yellow, psychadelic tie-die.

it is unlikely to break (unless the moulding quality is rubbish), so it makes fark all difference.

a polyurethane bush isn't a rocket science.

[Sydneykid]

SuperPro most definitely use different duro (hardness) to Whiteline in some applications.

If he is price matching the Group Buy, then go with SuperPro to keep the installer happy, you won't have any problems.

cheers

[noone]

Thanks guys figured as much hopefully durometer wont be too different, Am I correct in assuming that having the nose of the car up 10mm is the go even at lower than stock heights to adjust roll centre and make the car more oversteer than understeer yes or do I have that wrong

Edited April 18, 2007 by noone

[drf76]

ive gone with all super pro bushes as it was just easier and they look exactly the same as whiteline, duro may possibly vary, not sure but they look exactly the same and do the same job in alignment wise, i got them from fulcrum and i was quoting whiteline part numbers and they said their products (super pro) are exactly the same and the only difference they said is that they have them all in stock and theyre blue. Supposedly they make all whiteline bushes. And also they are much cheaper which was a bonus.

Edited April 18, 2007 by drf76

[Sydneykid]

Thanks guys figured as much hopefully durometer wont be too different, Am I correct in assuming that having the nose of the car up 10mm is the go even at lower than stock heights to adjust roll centre and make the car more oversteer than understeer yes or do I have that wrong

Don’t confuse guard height with chassis height, R32/33/34’s have the front guards cut higher than the rear guards. For example 350 mm front and 340 mm rear (centre of wheel to guard) gives a 10 mm nose down rake, as measured at the sills.

Other than that you have it correct, the heights are determined by the roll couple, the difference between the CoR (centre of roll) and the CoG (centre of gravity). The rear CoG is much higher than the front, hence the need for rake (nose down).

cheers

[noone]

Thanks for that SK yeah I was measureing centre of wheel to wheel arch on the guard hadnt actually tried at the sills though see what you mean. When I measured mine it was even at all 4 wheel centre's to guard openings so will try to correct that when I get the bushes installed. Might still have to chase you up for some adjustable swaybars though if the Group buy is still happening, will see how she handles round HiddenValley on the weekend.

Thanks for the help

[noone]

Well dropped my car off this morning with notes on what settings I was after and parts I was thinking would be needed etc. with one aditional direction, if there are any drama's ring me once its finished ring me. come bout 4.30 havnt herd a thing cant get anyone to answer the phone so start the 20 minute drive to pick up the car to find .......

the guy has done nothing hasnt touched a damn thing.!!!!!

"mate the upper bushes at the front are stuffed and so are the tie rod ends at the back (hicas rack ends) no point me trying to adjust the allignment on that till you get that stuff fixed"

I was completely lost for words the f**kn thing was there to get bushes and whatever was required to get the settings I wanted. no I dont care about tyre wear yes I know its a fairly racy setup ring me if there is any drama's. Could I have made it much clearer?????? Bloody Darwin service is f**kn non existant it really f*kn is!!!!

Most usefull thing he managed to find was that the coilovers seem to already be at ther highest position with ride height bout 335 centre of wheel to guard all round and couldnt be adjusted much more safely.

Is that group buy still a goer looks like I will be needing coilovers as well as all the other goodies to install myself as well as new HICAS rack ends are the subframe bushes in the group buy the ones just above the diff centre as noticed one of these has spewed silicon all over the show as well so time to replace them too methinks.

Anyone know if these tierod ends can be brought from anywhere other than nissan genuine pedders maybe also is it possible to use R33 front ones as I heard you can and they are much stronger???

Edited April 24, 2007 by noone

[Ronin 09]

i thought you took it there to do all that stuff??????

[noone]

So did I wasted a whole day I could have spent getting other shit sorted before sunday (track day) damn I was pissed off