Money To Spend On A 32 Gtr

[Beer Baron]

N1 is for Nismo

no it's not.. lol

anyway, I don't think your labour price was that far out, except for the fuel pump. god damn. remove and drain tank? you just open the inspection port and clip it in. takes about 1 hour tops if you have never done it before. next time is 30 mins.

oil pump I think is a waste of money with his current upgrades. cost of around $1200 for a good one, and when using a high flowing pump it's worth while fitting baffles, and you will NEED to add an oil return from the head, and block or reduce the oil feeds to the head (all this together would be a couple of grand installed).

forget the oil pump at this stage of mods.

[Blitz]

N1 is for Nismo

Sorry, but no - There is a big difference between a Nismo crate engine and an R33 N1 motor, let alone the fact there are various types to choose from :laughing-smiley-014:

[sewid]

N1 is for Nismo

N1 has nothing to do with Nismo.

N1 is Nissan.

[Beer Baron]

I think N1 is short for TRD.

[Blitz]

I think N1 is short for TRD.

[Angus Smart]

thanks for all the imput guys!

i think that what i told him at first is pretty much the go ahead! most of you backed it all up here!

[700HP-GTR33]

OK...I got that wrong...but that is all ...I stand by all the other estimated prices.

Oh Beer Baron....I get it ...get all your mods...and wait for the oil pump to fail...so then you can re-build your motor..lol

[gun32gtr]

im doing similar mods to what ya mate wants.im not changing oil pump just keep revs under 8 thats my plan and hope she holds up good...

[700HP-GTR33]

im doing similar mods to what ya mate wants.im not changing oil pump just keep revs under 8 thats my plan and hope she holds up good...

get on the sticky thread...Report Engine failures...and look at why most GTR32 motors fail.

Oil pump...broken gears...broken bolts on gears,,,then it is up to you to decide.

[Beer Baron]

OK...I got that wrong...but that is all ...I stand by all the other estimated prices.

Oh Beer Baron....I get it ...get all your mods...and wait for the oil pump to fail...so then you can re-build your motor..lol

well for 300kw I don't think it's neccesary to change the oil pump. look at the cost properly:

new pump (jun,greddy,whatever) $1200

external oil drain $300

oil restrictor $10

head gasket $250

sump baffles/enlarged sump $500

proper oil pressure gauge $300

crank collar + fitting $300

REMOVE AND REPLACE ENGINE $800

REMOVE AND REPLACE HEAD $400

a total of nearly $4000 just to have an aftermarket pump installed and working properly. that's a lot of dough just to protect a standard RB26...

now whilst you have gone to all this trouble to replace the oil pump tell me, now that you have the head off doesn't it make sense to install some forged pistons? if you are going pistons doesn't it make sense to get some new rods too. if you are getting new rods now you need new bearings. now you have just rebuilt your RB26 and have spent $10K and not even done your mods yet.

so I'll say it again. for small low mount turbos, running around the 300kw mark replacing the oil pump is not the best use of your money.

edit: forgot crank collar.

[gun32gtr]

well for 300kw I don't think it's neccesary to change the oil pump. look at the cost properly:

new pump (jun,greddy,whatever) $1200

external oil drain $300

oil restrictor $10

head gasket $250

sump baffles/enlarged sump $500

proper oil pressure gauge $300

REMOVE AND REPLACE ENGINE $800

REMOVE AND REPLACE HEAD $400

a total of nearly $4000 just to have an aftermarket pump installed and working properly. that's a lot of dough just to protect a standard RB26...

now whilst you have gone to all this trouble to replace the oil pump tell me, now that you have the head off doesn't it make sense to install some forged pistons? if you are going pistons doesn't it make sense to get some new rods too. if you are getting new rods now you need new bearings. now you have just rebuilt your RB26 and have spent $10K and not even done your mods yet.

so I'll say it again. for small low mount turbos, running around the 300kw mark replacing the oil pump is not the best use of your money.

agreed totally. plus a r33 gtr crank or collar.ill be waiting for it to pop or have the money for the full build,i no things might break but shit it break on the stock setup 2...

[R31Nismoid]

Goes for you to ash.....I have been through all this and can even post receipts on work carried out by performance work-shops.

If You and Nick agree that for $2000 you can get Turbo's/Dumps/Injectors/Fuel pump/Regulator/Oil pump/Timing Belt

all fitted..........I believe you are mis-leading people.....let alone there has been no talk of a good tune and all the other minor details that will be need to be adressed.

Good luck with the mods mate..

Oh as far as the new crate motor..here is a link http://www.justjap.com/parts_nengines.htm

Thanks for the link. I aware of what a crate motor is and where to purchase them.

But do you realise you get just the long motor?

So spending 13k on a crate motor, and then going and purchasing plenum, injectors, loom, turbos, dumps, manifolds, belts, pulleys etc etc.

You basically spend 13k and your worse off as you still need to purchsse everything.

Posting up that he should by a crate motor for 300rwkw is just stupid when a stock RB26 can rattle of 300rwkw day in day out for years.

Many have done so before, many will continue to do so.

I wasnt even referring to Nick's post about labour debate with you.

I was referring, as i did quote you, to your post about the parts. So lets get into it.

Below is what you reccomended, next to it is more precise advice.

* 2530/2860's - too big for 300rwkw

* Nismo FPR - Not required at all

* Splitfire coils - Not neccesarily required

* 700 or higher injectors - wrong

* Cams - Nice to have, but again not required

For 13k (incl cams) thats just a plain rip off. If you paid that price, then you my friend have been stung royally.

Angus posted the rough prices back on Page 1 (around $8500). Go back and look over it and you'll see the prices are spot on.

Anymore than say... $1000 more... you paid good money for nothing

[700HP-GTR33]

Thanks for the link. I aware of what a crate motor is and where to purchase them.

But do you realise you get just the long motor?

So spending 13k on a crate motor, and then going and purchasing plenum, injectors, loom, turbos, dumps, manifolds, belts, pulleys etc etc.

You basically spend 13k and your worse off as you still need to purchsse everything.

Posting up that he should by a crate motor for 300rwkw is just stupid when a stock RB26 can rattle of 300rwkw day in day out for years.

Many have done so before, many will continue to do so.

I wasnt even referring to Nick's post about labour debate with you.

I was referring, as i did quote you, to your post about the parts. So lets get into it.

Below is what you reccomended, next to it is more precise advice.

* 2530/2860's - too big for 300rwkw

* Nismo FPR - Not required at all

* Splitfire coils - Not neccesarily required

* 700 or higher injectors - wrong

* Cams - Nice to have, but again not required

For 13k (incl cams) thats just a plain rip off. If you paid that price, then you my friend have been stung royally.

Angus posted the rough prices back on Page 1 (around $8500). Go back and look over it and you'll see the prices are spot on.

Anymore than say... $1000 more... you paid good money for nothing

Thanks Nismoid......gt-ss or gt2530's for a gtr is really up to the individual choice.

The prices have fallen since I finished work on my car.

Sure...going different turbo's makes no difference in price.

Sure use your standard afm's.

Sure Coils aren't required.

Sure 700cc injectors are big....so 555 items are fine.

Sure cams aren't required...

Sure new oil pump and water pump aren't required

Sure timing belt...or any other thing required....

Sure dial the actuator to 1.2bar....so no need for boost controller.

SO

"Slap the turbo,s,injectors and pump(Fuel) do a mild tune.....all is good.

$2500 turbo's,fuel pump and reg.$ 450...INJECTORS $700...TUNE AND LABOUR.....$1800..FROM A QUALITY WORKSHOP.

TOTAL COST $5450

Engine will be fine...under 300or at300rwkw's if you rev..below 8000RPM...all good."

If i ever give this comment to a thread title like "Money to spend on a gtr"ESPECIALLY A 32

THEN GIVE IT TO ME HARD...LOL

[SLIPPERY]

Isnt there a name given to those people that talk so much crap, that in the end they actually believe what theyre saying?

The term has escaped me at this moment

[SLIPPERY]

if youre going 2530s then they are in fact a fair bit more than the GT-SS kit

[700HP-GTR33]

well for 300kw I don't think it's neccesary to change the oil pump. look at the cost properly:

new pump (jun,greddy,whatever) $1200

external oil drain $300

oil restrictor $10

head gasket $250

sump baffles/enlarged sump $500

proper oil pressure gauge $300

crank collar + fitting $300

REMOVE AND REPLACE ENGINE $800

REMOVE AND REPLACE HEAD $400

a total of nearly $4000 just to have an aftermarket pump installed and working properly. that's a lot of dough just to protect a standard RB26...

now whilst you have gone to all this trouble to replace the oil pump tell me, now that you have the head off doesn't it make sense to install some forged pistons? if you are going pistons doesn't it make sense to get some new rods too. if you are getting new rods now you need new bearings. now you have just rebuilt your RB26 and have spent $10K and not even done your mods yet.

so I'll say it again. for small low mount turbos, running around the 300kw mark replacing the oil pump is not the best use of your money.

edit: forgot crank collar.

So true....to many things need to be looked at...thought about...cost of replacing taken into account when you have everything open....the thing is...a 32 is getting a bit long in the tooth...if you don't replace or fix things as you upgrade

turbo's etc....you will be asking for trouble...that is why I firmly believe in fixing and replacing things before they break.

On the other hand ...most prefer to break thing first then fix them.

Either way...it still costs about the same.......

I mean...if the oil pump fails....cost for re-build...about $4k to $5k +..depending on what you want to go in.

To replace the oil pump and do the mod's as you have stated $4K.

Because the motor will be out to do the turbo's some of that cost is saved.

[SLIPPERY]

most places do a turbo swap with the motor in i thought, so the cost still outweighs the benefit without rebuilding

[700HP-GTR33]

Isnt there a name given to those people that talk so much crap, that in the end they actually believe what theyre saying?

Edited:did not think it was worth saying

[R31Nismoid]

Thanks Nismoid......gt-ss or gt2530's for a gtr is really up to the individual choice.

For 300rwkw, explain (logically) how the 2530 is better than the GT-SS

Thanks.

[700HP-GTR33]

For 300rwkw, explain (logically) how the 2530 is better than the GT-SS

Thanks.

Really

300RWKW's on which Dyno.. at what RPM...with what mods...using what boost?

Can he use 300RWKW's on the street if he gets it at 7500RPM.?

Does he know what a gtr feels like with only 300rwkw's?

.....lots of questions need to be asked to make it a logical explanation.

GT2530's I will state as the best upgrade on a gtr and most people who have driven one with them,will never use gt-ss turbo's.

I use them and there is nothing but smile on my face when I hit full boost.