Best Bang For Buck - Stock Gtr

[Guest B34ST GTR]

The opinions i get on were to spend my money on my stock GTR have got me really confused.

A C-West bodykit is at least 4 months away so i have decided to spend on my performance first.

The car is STOCK apart from the following

-cat back 3" exhaust

-twin apexi pod filters

-nismo suspension

-nismo 320km dash

i have $4000 to spend and i want the most performance without sacrificing reliability...

- X-speed recommend spending $3000 on HKS 3" dump and front pipes in stainless steel.

(i have seen the same parts in stainless steel on E-bay for under $400 but not HKS brand and am strongly recommended against these from X-speed for reliability purposes.)

- X- speed also recommend upgrading to N1 turbos at the same time as the turbo's need to come off for the pipe upgrade. All up i would be spending nearly $7000 going that way, which means holding out for further saving....

My other recommended option which i can do now is to get Power-FC D-Jetro and an electronic boost controller, then DYNO tune for a good HP upgrade, this will cost nearly my budget of $4000 fitted and tuned.

What to do? i hate losing drags to mildly worked SR20's because my car is so restricted from the factory.

[seeyagtr]

Got to go a set turbos, My surgestion is the 2860-5 and dumps if you fit them your self you will have engough coin for a pfc

[hanyou]

The opinions i get on were to spend my money on my stock GTR have got me really confused.

A C-West bodykit is at least 4 months away so i have decided to spend on my performance first.

The car is STOCK apart from the following

-cat back 3" exhaust

-twin apexi pod filters

-nismo suspension

-nismo 320km dash

i have $4000 to spend and i want the most performance without sacrificing reliability...

- X-speed recommend spending $3000 on HKS 3" dump and front pipes in stainless steel.

(i have seen the same parts in stainless steel on E-bay for under $400 but not HKS brand and am strongly recommended against these from X-speed for reliability purposes.)

- X- speed also recommend upgrading to N1 turbos at the same time as the turbo's need to come off for the pipe upgrade. All up i would be spending nearly $7000 going that way, which means holding out for further saving....

My other recommended option which i can do now is to get Power-FC D-Jetro and an electronic boost controller, then DYNO tune for a good HP upgrade, this will cost nearly my budget of $4000 fitted and tuned.

What to do? i hate losing drags to mildly worked SR20's because my car is so restricted from the factory.

omg man those prices are heaps lol.

dump/front - get the trust MX ones ~900 delivered nengun

turbo - depedning wat you want, popular choices GT-SS/2860/N1 for street ~from $2-3k

power fc - djetro isnt needed (for a street car) normal one costs $830 deliverd + $500ish tune?

boost controller - get whatever fancys you lol

[Ronin 09]

Suspension and brakes - little change from $5K though

[Ant97GTR]

Suspension and brakes - little change from $5K though

Lol thats not going to help him at the drags Go the suspension and brakes if circuit racing is your thing otherwise go the power upgrades you have suggested. I would however get quotes elsewhere as the prices listed from xspeed seem a little high.

[Angus Smart]

X speed surely saw you comming!

n1 turbos can be picked up for around 1100 each. and in future will support upwards of 350wkw @ 1.5bar and more if you can get the heat down and around 400+ @ 2bar

i'd go a set of turbos n1's or similar gtss or 25/30's, trust front and dump combination, computer powerfc looks like the winner and tune.

shouldnt see you over $5000 at all

Edited April 24, 2007 by Angus Smart

[GT-R32]

The beauty of the internet... or not depending on your perspective. It looks like XSpeed just priced themselves out.

[Lunatikk]

As Angus said, go with a set of N1's, 2530, GT-SS or anything with steel wheels before you maybe drop a std ceramic wheel (I know it's less likely on a R34 being newer etc but it's still not worth the risk waiting for it to happen). Trust dumps, Power FC & a nice tune. I'd also advise running on low-boost for awhile 'til you learn how the car reacts & responds so you don't end up writing your "new girlfriend" off

Good Luck & Enjoy!!

[SLIPPERY]

$3000 on dumps and front pipes!!! shit!!!!

buy your own turbos, pipes and power FC and youll save tonnes. The prices mentioned above by other members is pretty much spot on. Thats the beauty of the net.

$4k wont get you new turbos, power FC, dumps, tune and labour

More like closer to 6. perhaps extend the budget a little and do it right, do it once!

[Guest B34ST GTR]

X speed surely saw you comming!

n1 turbos can be picked up for around 1100 each. and in future will support upwards of 350wkw @ 1.5bar and more if you can get the heat down and around 400+ @ 2bar

i'd go a set of turbos n1's or similar gtss or 25/30's, trust front and dump combination, computer powerfc looks like the winner and tune.

shouldnt see you over $5000 at all

I couldnt agree more X-speed lost my respect as soon as they quoted me "cashed up bogan" prices but i have been told there 'experience on the topic is invaluable' compared to others here in perth?

My older bro is a die hard Holden mechanic from way back who kindly offers me to do the front pipe/ turbo fitting and save me 8ish hours of $100p/hour labour..... but im in the car game myself and even my most experienced exhaust contact says 'huge hard job which he refuses to do.......Do i let my bro tinker with this job with average turbo experience???

I have found power fc for 1200 on ebay (with 1 year warranty)

power fc d-jetro for 1400 on ebay (with 1 year warranty)

is it worth the extra $200 for d-jetro?

I like the idea of trust dumps and front pipe for $900 but where do i go for this?

$1200- power fc (any cheaper please inform)

$900- trust dumps and fronty

$500?- electronic boost cont.

$2200- for a pair of N1's/gtss

$4800- complete if i let my bro do the work....

The car is my lovely wifes daily as i have company vehicle, due to a little habib experience i've recently had, i now only use it myself personally for track events and tuning days.. however i need to keep the missus daily driving into account...

thanks guys.

[ferni]

That and the fact you don't need aftermarket front pipes.... stock ones are fine.

typical stage 1 is up the boost to 1bar, powerFC Tune and cam gears, should get you close to 250rwkw.... probably worth spending a some more $ on the exhaust, dump pipes maybe? Should only be 3k or so there... if you want to spend a bit more, replace the turbos with some GT-SS or similar... up to around 300rwkw then...

[ras1983]

first thing you should do is change the clutch to a good twin-plate like an ORC or OSgiken.

then get a pfc + boost controller. you should have around 250-270rwkw, and you should be running consistent flat 12's thanks to your twin plate clutch.

[moonus]

srsly, the GTR is a machine in stock form. it should smoke mildy worked sr20's anyday as a stocker. Maybe work on launches

Anyhow dude with a GTR all u need is a power fc + tune which will cost you maybe around 2 k

U dont need to worry about intercooler as the GTR core is sufficient. U say u have pods, so u only have two other things to do.

1. get some dump + front pipes with hi flow cat. just go to justjap. theyll do u a good price for less than 1.5 k surely

2. get a boost controller that'll hold boost right through the rev range. u can go with one of those turbotech manual ones but since u got 4 k get an ebc.

With a power fc + full exhuast + boost controller @ 14 psi, i think ull easily net 250 rwks. Den u sud be running some 11's. meh no chance for midly worked sr20's, even with a bad launch.

:laughing-smiley-014:

[gun32gtr]

turbos the old ceramic ones scare me....pfc 2..or go the other route and get it up to sratch maintaince wise if need be...

[Guest B34ST GTR]

srsly, the GTR is a machine in stock form. it should smoke mildy worked sr20's anyday as a stocker. Maybe work on launches

Anyhow dude with a GTR all u need is a power fc + tune which will cost you maybe around 2 k

U dont need to worry about intercooler as the GTR core is sufficient. U say u have pods, so u only have two other things to do.

1. get some dump + front pipes with hi flow cat. just go to justjap. theyll do u a good price for less than 1.5 k surely

2. get a boost controller that'll hold boost right through the rev range. u can go with one of those turbotech manual ones but since u got 4 k get an ebc.

With a power fc + full exhuast + boost controller @ 14 psi, i think ull easily net 250 rwks. Den u sud be running some 11's. meh no chance for midly worked sr20's, even with a bad launch.

:laughing-smiley-014:

Maybe there is something wrong with my car......

get this.... when i first start up and get the car at norn temp, and my oil temp hasnt registered on the factory oil temp gauge on the lcd, i can get upto 1.1 bar boost of the 1.2 avail but after a max of 10 minutes of driving and the oil temp hits say 85-87 degrees.... the car will then not allow me to get anymore than 0.6 bar boost? even though thats generally at about 3500rpm and there is still another 4500rpm to go with no additional help from the boost....it kind of bounces from 0.55 to 0.65 and thats when i start losing to the sr20.

Now 85-87 degrees is not even near reaching the red zone (120-130 degrees)to which i would expect it to limit my boost but 85 deg is near the bottom of the gauge; to which doesnt even register on gauge until about 75 degrees????

I hope this is just a factory setting from Japan and hope fc and boost controller will fix.

[SLIPPERY]

power FC are around $900 delivered from a couple of traders on this site

have a look in the trader section

[Angus Smart]

I couldnt agree more X-speed lost my respect as soon as they quoted me "cashed up bogan" prices but i have been told there 'experience on the topic is invaluable' compared to others here in perth?

My older bro is a die hard Holden mechanic from way back who kindly offers me to do the front pipe/ turbo fitting and save me 8ish hours of $100p/hour labour..... but im in the car game myself and even my most experienced exhaust contact says 'huge hard job which he refuses to do.......Do i let my bro tinker with this job with average turbo experience???

I have found power fc for 1200 on ebay (with 1 year warranty)

power fc d-jetro for 1400 on ebay (with 1 year warranty)

is it worth the extra $200 for d-jetro?

I like the idea of trust dumps and front pipe for $900 but where do i go for this?

$1200- power fc (any cheaper please inform)

$900- trust dumps and fronty

$500?- electronic boost cont.

$2200- for a pair of N1's/gtss

$4800- complete if i let my bro do the work....

The car is my lovely wifes daily as i have company vehicle, due to a little habib experience i've recently had, i now only use it myself personally for track events and tuning days.. however i need to keep the missus daily driving into account...

thanks guys.

Having done the turbos and dump pipes with the help of a friend i would say its a pain in the ass for sure! and i wouldn't do it again! i even have friends who work in the automotive business and tell me to go elsewhere if i need it done!

i say give your brother a hand! get a case of beer! and get yourself a workshop manual if you haven't already and try follow it! they are available to download on the web for free if you need help finding one pm me! tho there isn't one for 34gtr! but I'd say they engine and turbo things are same from model to model.

i mentioned the trust dumps and front as you said you already have a cat back! and could still possibly use it! which is a good choice really! but i pain in the ass to fit (on a 32 anyway)

it'd go the n1 turbos. i think the gtss would be a bit more than the around 2200 figure for the n1's

you can get the trust dumps from a website http://www.nengun.com/ or http://www.greenline.jp/ you could also get your ebc and power fc from there also! work out the costs. they are both rather cheep and parts come via ems from japan!

hope that helps a bit

Andrew

[arep3]

d jetro is only for race cars. stick with afm's. with afms, it will work out cheaper and easier to tune (if the mech knows what he is doin) if u wanna know more about power fc, read this,

http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/docs/...powerfc-faq.htm

open up the exhaust with some dumps pipes. have a look at the trust 1s. their massive and come with the front pipe as a kit with all the stuff u need. (apart from gasket cement.) and the turbos and motor dont need to come out of the car to fit dumps, but it is a mongrel of a job.

if i were u, i would take the car to a well known mech that knows a lot about GTR's and talk to them about it. get it dynoed and see how its running. see what they suggest for power upgrades.

Cheers, Ron

[arep3]

it'd go the n1 turbos. i think the gtss would be a bit more than the around 2200 figure for the n1's

Andrew

GT-SS turbos from nengun for my 32gtr arrived the other day. $2786 delivered. same price for your car. i just checked. www.nengun.com

better responce in my opinion. plus they are brand new. not worn 2nd hand n1 turbos

[Angus Smart]

GT-SS turbos from nengun for my 32gtr arrived the other day. $2786 delivered. same price for your car. i just checked. www.nengun.com

better responce in my opinion. plus they are brand new. not worn 2nd hand n1 turbos

the n1's which i speak of are actually the garret ones which are brand new for around 1100 depending where you go etc.