huge subaru crash.....

[Ender]

Anyone see the suby crash in the western suburbs this morning....man that car is mashed good.....

Huge intercooler in the middle of the street with the piping attached and the reast of the dar strewn all over the place...reckon they might have been speeding..

AWD didn't help him there....

Russ

[bangahh]

I would believe common sense would have help heaps more than AWD.

[meggala]

this was it I think

very nasty

Car ripped in half as horror smash claims two

May 23 2003

Two men aged in their early 20s died when their car was torn in half in a crash in Melbourne's west today.

The men died at the scene after their car veered from Forrest Street, Ardeer, and hit trees and a brick fence about 4:50am (AEST), ambulance spokesman James Howe said.

"The impact of the crash tore the car in half and the men were thrown clear," he said.

"It was pretty horrific. The paramedics who attended were experienced and said it was one of the worst accidents they have ever attended."

[inark]

ouch.... not good.

im sure they will blame this on import drivers somehow and their street racing.

[predator]

well it probably was actually nark.. early morning after the thursday night drags

won't help the current situation at all.

[chopobo]

ouch

i saw it on tv

you can't even see a remote resemblance shape of a car

its all in pieces everywhere

[SHUTO-BOY]

very sad..

[predator]

if u think thats bad. the bodys were worse.they found a leg near the trainstation. i only knew 1 of the guys in that car.R.I.P

Even if u only met one , thats harsh, harsh... they're gone forever just because of a car

*sigh* i mean its easy to stuff around on the roads, but sometimes there the consequences are well tragic.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

reality kicks in....quite quickly

[makaveli]

**** thats some serious shit, very horrifying to immagine witnessing such an event and being there. I can't believe it, I neva saw it on t.v but Meggala's pic was descriptive enough. Those guy's are in a better place now with any car they wish to drive, R.I.P.

Ehh JET33 this "90% r owned by 40yo housewives who think they r married to michael schumacher... " is a crack up man coz its so true. Im still laughin hahahahahahahaha

[meggala]

yeah I'm laughing and my wife drives my skyline should I say our skyline

[meggala]

thought I would add this from the age this morning

Call for tighter laws on young drivers

May 24 2003

By Padraic Murphy

Police Reporter

Picture: JOE ARMAO

The wreckage left in a front yard after two young men died in a crash in Melbourne's west, top, and, below, the car's speedometer.

Police and road safety experts have called for the tightening of laws banning inexperienced drivers from performance cars following the deaths of two young men in a high-speed accident early yesterday.

William Ho, 22, of St Albans, and his 17-year-old passenger, an unidentified male believed to be visiting from South Australia, were killed instantly when Mr Ho lost control of the Subaru WRX and crashed just before 5am.

Road laws that ban young drivers from powerful eight-cylinder cars do not cover other high-performance, less powerful vehicles such as the WRX.

Senior Sergeant Ross Burbidge of the Melton traffic management unit said the crash was the worst in his 30 years attending accident scenes.

"The car was basically shattered after colliding with several trees. We found the exhaust of the car more than 100 metres away from where the vehicle came to rest," Senior Sergeant Burbidge said.

"Both of the deceased were thrown clear of the vehicle in the accident."

Police from the major collision investigation unit were only able to determine who was driving the vehicle after examining belt mark injuries the deceased received in the impact.

Senior Sergeant Burbidge said the car was travelling at more than 130 km/h, west along Forest Street in Ardeer, a 60 km/h zone, when the vehicle went out of control. No other cars were believed to have been involved.

Senior Sergeant Burbidge said it was time that laws governing young drivers and high-performance cars were reviewed.

"Too often we are attending these kinds of accident and finding dead young men. Young drivers, particularly young male drivers, seem to think that they are invincible in these kinds of cars," he said. "When you get the call to attend these things you just think 'what a waste'."

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Residents of the house where the car came to rest rushed to help, but found the two young men dead. "They are obviously pretty shocked and traumatised. Nobody should have to wake up to find the bodies of two young men in their front yard," Senior Sergeant Burbidge said.

Stuart Newstead, a senior researcher with Monash University's accident research centre, said that legislation banning inexperienced drivers from vehicles with 125 kilowatts of power per tonne did not cover many high-performance-type vehicles. "Vehicles such as the WRX have extreme acceleration because of the gearing, not the power-to-weight ratio. The legislation really only stops young drivers from cars like Ferrari," he said.

"If law-makers want to bar young drivers from these sorts of vehicles, then they will need to review the legislation."

Mr Newstead said laws banning young drivers from high-performance cars would be difficult to enforce. "There are a lot of ways to make a car go fast," he said.

"It is a very tricky area but one that needs to be looked at."

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[makaveli]

Thats mad Meggala wen im older and get married I only plan to have skylines in the garage too.

hehe

[Bozz]

Originally posted by meggala

 

Road laws that ban young drivers from powerful eight-cylinder cars do not cover other high-performance, less powerful vehicles such as the WRX.

I never knew the WRX had less power than the almighty 253 and carby 308 V8's

Senior Sergeant Burbidge said the car was travelling at more than 130 km/h, west along Forest Street in Ardeer, a 60 km/h zone, when the vehicle went out of control. No other cars were believed to have been involved.  

More speed cameras. Nevermind idiotic stuff such as driver education or reposession of the vehicles of fools that do these ridiculous speeds in built-up urban areas.

Stuart Newstead, a senior researcher with Monash University's accident research centre, said that legislation banning inexperienced drivers from vehicles with 125 kilowatts of power per tonne did not cover many high-performance-type vehicles. "Vehicles such as the WRX have extreme acceleration because of the gearing, not the power-to-weight ratio. The legislation really only stops young drivers from cars like Ferrari," he said.  

I was under the impression that 4WD provided almost double the traction compared to 2WD and therefore they could get "extreme acceleration" as a result. How much quicker is a WRX compared to say a V8 Falcon or Commodore from a 40km/h rolling start? Not much, if at all.

"If law-makers want to bar young drivers from these sorts of vehicles, then they will need to review the legislation."

Mr Newstead said laws banning young drivers from high-performance cars would be difficult to enforce. "There are a lot of ways to make a car go fast," he said.

"It is a very tricky area but one that needs to be looked at."  

Mr Newstead also mentioned, off the record, that the reason it would be difficult to enforce would be the technology does not exist in speed cameras to book these young "hoons" and to leave them on the road so they can rake in more revenue for the government. If the laws were introduced, they would require police to pull the offender over, issue a single fine and have the offender arrange towing the vehicle. This would markedly reduce the government revenue stream.

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I also find it interesting that its barely been mentioned that what they were doing was very wrong. It wasn't a deserted country road where you could see that almost nothing could go wrong, it was suburbia where anything could (and in this case, did) go wrong.

Loss of life is very sad in a situation like this, how would you feel if they lost control, not into a brick fence and tree, but into a family coming the other way? What if you were related to the innocent people using the roads that lost their life as a result?

Its very sad if people lose their lives if they go to get away from the public, to try and push their cars to the limits, such as on a racetrack, or deserted country road with no cars or trees etc.

Reducing the power/weight or performance car, insufficient education for licence holders, the drivers foolishness, anything can be attributed to preventing an accident like this. A stock six cyl Commodore can easily hit 200km/h and wouldn't prevent accidents like this one. Banning the performance cars wont prevent it. Teaching people how to drive would reduce the amount of them.

RIP Gentlemen.

[meggala]

/bozz steps off his soap box

morning btw

[Bozz]

Morning S

No soap box for me, its too bloody freezing and the reverse cycle outdoor unit is a large block of ice at the moment

[red900ss]

Obviously the solution is to ban all inexperienced drivers from cars with AWD, ABS, low profile tyres, improved suspension, alloy wheels, etc as these features encourage them do drive in an unsafe manner. However, if they wish to drive a vehicle with these features then a levy should be payable and a certificate issued.

[/cynicism]

Agree with your sentiments Bozz.

Maybe this will be a wake up call for all the budding Vin Diesels......maybe not

[Ender]

everyone has to drive a shitter pre 78 corrolla with no bigger engine than a 3K for one year, then you can graduate to a stocker datto 1600 then to a modded datto then to whatever you want.....

Hows that for a plan??

Cheers

[meggala]

yeah the kids now days are spoilt russ arent they.

cheers

[Ender]

well they paid the highest price for that didn't they....