Ecu Help Plz

[Pauly33GTS-t]

Ive done both and more on my stock ecu, but when u do start doing that, the ecu dumps fuel into ur engine in fear of leaning out and I only get 270km a tank on normal driving with the occasional fang.

[rush33]

Thats crazy man, we should all buy shares in oil!! So how does the emanage ultimate compare to power fc??

Cost, tunability, adv/disadvantages?

[Pauly33GTS-t]

Emanage Ultimate is a fair go up and comer... Apexi Power FC is now too expensive for what it is worth IMO, how do you go from 1000 dollars retail with hand controller to now 1,600 with hand controller, second hand, and missing a few wires or soemshit... just ludicrous.

[Deluxe]

how do you go from 1000 dollars retail with hand controller to now 1,600 with hand controller, second hand, and missing a few wires or soemshit... just ludicrous.

Because they no make them anymore, Gonna get real hard to find soon! So people can charge what they want until it gets sold! Glad my car came with one when i bought it!

[Pauly33GTS-t]

Ultimate is better then. show us ur firmware upgrades on the power fc.

Ultimate can only get better now that power fc for us is out of the picture.

[sinistaGTR]

WTF you are tlkaing shit out your arse again...the ultimate is a toy piggy back...yes it might be a good one, but it cannot compete with a stand alone ecu. and you realise power fcs use to be worth that much any not so long ago

[Madaz]

i agree pauly and is better priced to begin with you dont really need a HC thats a in car gimmick unless your pro and know what your doing with it

[sinistaGTR]

i agree there a cheaper option, but better no way and i find i actually do use my hand controller a lot esp since i put new turbo and rebuild. check things like knock duty cycle water temp things like that i find crucial. and the fact you can adjust you rev limiter when you drop the car off for any reason, has saved my car in the past witnessed with my own two eyes

[Madaz]

^^ yeah good point

as for firmware i was thinking in the shower Apexi obviously didnt enable that on there FC because it doesnt need it

i think Trent URAS said there may be a controller coming for the emanage but its unconfirmed

Edited May 4, 2007 by Madaz

[Pauly33GTS-t]

Dan works for Apexi... I agree they are good but they are dead now. they being Apexi is dead unfortunately.

Ultimate has soemthing vital which is Firmware, which means not only can Greddy improve the emanage and add new features, but ppl can create their own firmware which could have limiter cut and shit like that which can be changed via a hand controller, having firmware upgrades the feature list could be only as much as long the hardware allows it, which means anything could be throw into it, hell it could have a scientific calculator thrown into the firmware to work on the upcoming unconfirmed hand controller.

[skylineboy86]

Paul your right man!

[sinistaGTR]

i dont work for apexi.....

ok heres some home truths....

skylines are starting to become old, ppl are talking in the future they can do this that and the other with firmware and the MAYBE hand controller. what company in there right mind is goin to pour X amount of dollars into research and development for an old car no one. I think ppl need to start realising that they own there skylines now not in 3-10 years time. the microtec, wolf and ever so rare powerfcs are prob the best option for NOW. who wants to wait till greddy MIGHT bring out something to mod there car. yes the emanage is a good PIGGY back not a full ecu its certainly a cheaper option but i mean you get what you pay for aswell.

[Pauly33GTS-t]

I think its more to do with whatevers the strongest in the aftermarket market. I mean Skylines are still in the top5 most sold cars second hand in australia, and in japan there is that many its not funny. It wont be long till the skyline is more affordable like the r32 for ppl to mod, as prices generally come down, and then the new ECU will support it an niche the market like the pfc did. if apexi is looking to the future and cutting us rb25ers out then that might be a bad move considering how many ppl want the PFC right now...

i think a guy put his kid on ebay for a pfc...

Apparently though, apexi is still in production for people that order them in bulk, Guilt-Toy on the forced induction section has highlighted that ppl on ebay selling them brand new are getting them from somewhere.

[sinistaGTR]

yes there are powerfc for rb25 still available you need to buy in bulk, they have just sourced new chips and looks like it might be back in production.