EVILTD Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Hi guys, Just wanted to hear your thoughts on this... I used to own a Honda Accord VTEC 3.0 ... it came with a supercharger (not sure which one) but it went... the roar of the V6 VTEC engine would send shivers down anyone's spine... now that I drive a R33 beast... it too has power but if the two would be pinned side-by-side in a quatermile sprint...which would win do you think? I noticed that with Skylines (Turbos of course)... it has highend power and no so much lowerend and the opposite can be said for VTEC Honda's... is there a way a Skyline can be tuned to have high power in the lower RPM ranges? Is there so controller or piggyback ECU that can adjust this or is this just how a RB is designed? Thanks in advance... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forged Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I noticed that with Skylines (Turbos of course)... it has highend power and no so much lowerend and the opposite can be said for VTEC Honda's... is there a way a Skyline can be tuned to have high power in the lower RPM ranges? Is there so controller or piggyback ECU that can adjust this or is this just how a RB is designed? Thats because you had an 3 litre V6 obviously it would feel more torquey down low than an 2.5 litre RB. More to do with displacement than anything. In this case the supercharger contributes to the low end power too. In fact most VTEC Hondas are 2l, 1.8l and 1.6l. These are famous for their peaky top end power not torque. so VTECs in general do not have more low end power than your RB. There are many ways to improve low end power: Increase displacement e.g. RB30 conversion:). Aftermarket cams and etc.. Cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34GTTSKY Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Hi guys,Just wanted to hear your thoughts on this... I used to own a Honda Accord VTEC 3.0 ... it came with a supercharger (not sure which one) but it went... the roar of the V6 VTEC engine would send shivers down anyone's spine... now that I drive a R33 beast... it too has power but if the two would be pinned side-by-side in a quatermile sprint...which would win do you think? I noticed that with Skylines (Turbos of course)... it has highend power and no so much lowerend and the opposite can be said for VTEC Honda's... is there a way a Skyline can be tuned to have high power in the lower RPM ranges? Is there so controller or piggyback ECU that can adjust this or is this just how a RB is designed? Thanks in advance... i thoguht the power range in vtecs it higher in the rev range in th elower rev range ti just saves petrol doensn't it? n the revs are longer as well tahts'w ot makes vtecs have the performance they have rite? but all in all i reckon comes down to the driver Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eron Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 VTEC comes in at about 4.5k RPM. Unless your turbo comes in after that, you should have more power before VTEC kicks in. And yeah, it was probably due to the displacement and supercharger. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
32line Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 (edited) ...it too has power but if the two would be pinned side-by-side in a quatermile sprint...which would win do you think? the skyline would win (imo)...if u launched both cars the 33 would be faster.... ofcourse the 33 would seem slower wen u just takin off normally, cause of turbo lag.....superchargers as u prolly know eliminate this lag + a 3ltr is gona help. u dont have to spend much money on a skyline to get it moving faster...turbo bak exhaust, ecu, boost, fmic, done, and alot fatser than a freggin accord. EDIT: off the line ull always struggle if u dont launch a skyline... Edited April 25, 2007 by 32line Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_weevil Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_weevil Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 which frigin accord has a 3L supercharged engine? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 i haven't even been able to find a 3L accord with VTEC. they all have variable valve timing, but not the vtec setup. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey33 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I have raced a Vtec integra 96ish model. He has exhaust and air intake. I had catback on series 1 33... Off the line I got him (comfortably) but top end, Was absolutely neck and neck. I Love the sound of the Vtec when it kicks in. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 at test and tune on the weekend i beat a turbo r33 in a 99 magna with just a cat back. but by the end of the night he was getting quicker. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverECR33 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I just did a search and couldnt find 1 that comes with a supercharger - could be my lazy search effort. But without supercharger 200HorsePower at the flywheel.. lol? East west V6. gotta be joking. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3075997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig V8 taffe Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 at test and tune on the weekend i beat a turbo r33 in a 99 magna with just a cat back. but by the end of the night he was getting quicker. WTF? He probably couldn't launch it properly, but that's still no excuse. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3076206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgr34 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) the aftermarket supercharger (i dont think its factory never heard of factory charged honda) would of made low down torque and being v6 would of pulled fairly hard...... Edited April 26, 2007 by rgr34 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3076323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVILTD Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 i haven't even been able to find a 3L accord with VTEC. they all have variable valve timing, but not the vtec setup. I had a 1998 Honda Accord V6 Luxury... 3.0 litre VTEC engine - plus the preivous owner put in a supercharger... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVILTD Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 Although I absolutely adore and love my Skyline to bits... I have to say, if the R33 had a 3.0 litre VTEC-alike engine in it... damn... a new monster would be born... I kinda miss the VTEC yo! LOL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateR31 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Although I absolutely adore and love my Skyline to bits... I have to say, if the R33 had a 3.0 litre VTEC-alike engine in it... damn... a new monster would be born... I kinda miss the VTEC yo! LOL lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eron Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Maybe we should press for a Honda-Nissan merger? lol. Not that Renault will allow it. Can Renault buy over Honda? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingeringsoul Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 i'd go for a honda and nissan merge, I love Hondas especially NSX with a nice exhaust. as for getting more low down, misfiring system? vrrrrrooooooom BANG BANG BANG BANG Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_psycle Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Although I absolutely adore and love my Skyline to bits... I have to say, if the R33 had a 3.0 litre VTEC-alike engine in it... damn... a new monster would be born... I kinda miss the VTEC yo! LOL jesus f$cking christ, what a disgrace Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/166087-rb-turbo-power-vs-vtec/#findComment-3077387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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