Wa Licence Regs

[Stinky Rooster]

I am hoping for a little advice here. My stagea has recently been involved in a nasty accident that is going to have it off the road for possibly six months or more, and the rego is about to run out. As I am going to be doing the majority of the work myself to repair it, I was considering taking the plates off and taking it over the pits when it is ready to drive again, rather than p1ss the rego money up the wall when it won't actually be drivable. My question is this - how much difference is there between taking a complianced import over the pits compared to taking a domestic car? I have re-licenced falcodores before, but I am unsure of what sort of documentation I will need to retag the stagea.

I should point out that my car is not a recent import, it was actually the test car for WA compliance for stageas so I don't actually have copies of the compliance paperwork, although I am assuming they won't be hard to get hold of?

Any and all advice on this would be hugely appreciated

[bubba]

Ouch dude that sucks but sorry I wouldn't know. I imagine it wouldn't be too much different than a falcadore aslong as compliance can be proved (compliance plate or papers etc), we just get my mates boss to take all our cars over the pits when needed.. hell he got my mates boonger commodore over the pits with a twincam twinturbo rb30 and a triple plate!

[Stinky Rooster]

Thanks anyway mate. Is there any chance you could run this question past your mates boss for me? I would appreciate it.

[djr81]

My 10 cents - just pay the rego. It will be much less painfull in the end & not much more expensive.

By the time you take the time off work to go over the pits & go through all the hassle & costs it is just easier to take the pain of 6 months rego. The licensing/inspection system is an all day effort at the moment & the $10 Eric the Ripper chucked at it from the budget won't fix the problems in 6 months.

Add up the costs for new plates, transaction fees, time off work etc etc etc & see if it does actually add up.

[bubba]

I will ask him next time I see him but I kind of agree with djr81.. anytime I've had a car off the road for an extended period I maintain the rego to avoid the hassles. One of my mates has had his SS torana off the road for something like 8 years and kept the rego up (this thing is badass.. RB25 5spd in an SS and every nut/bolt throughout the car is brand new )

[mitchy_]

from my experience with my 33, it took nothing but proof of ownership (old rego papers were suffice) to re-register it.

[Stinky Rooster]

I see what you are saying with the hassles - but the $600 a year it costs me in rego kinda makes it worth while and seeing as though the car is stock as a rock - not even a FMIC then getting it over the pits will be pretty easy. I am very confident in the car and after all the work I am planning on doing to it (Neo S2 engine and triptronic box for starters) then the rego money will make things a little less time constrained and I will be relaxed enough to take my time and do it all properly.

As for keeping a car rego'd for 8 years and not driving it? Unless you are trying to avoid engineering approval requests at the pits, thats just silly! Almost $5K to "avoid the hassles" ??? Thats a whole heap of extra mods you would be sacraficing.

[Tofu]

Since i got the yellow sticker on the line i have had nothing but hassles trying to pass it. One inspector says one thing, another says something completely different. It has been over 3 times and failed each time for something completely moronic,

If i were you, pay the rego... but im not.

Pends on your budget, They will go over the car with a fine tooth comb. If its been in an accident and there is some significant damage the adding of pit stress is not worth it.

[bubba]

I see what you are saying with the hassles - but the $600 a year it costs me in rego kinda makes it worth while and seeing as though the car is stock as a rock - not even a FMIC then getting it over the pits will be pretty easy. I am very confident in the car and after all the work I am planning on doing to it (Neo S2 engine and triptronic box for starters) then the rego money will make things a little less time constrained and I will be relaxed enough to take my time and do it all properly.

As for keeping a car rego'd for 8 years and not driving it? Unless you are trying to avoid engineering approval requests at the pits, thats just silly! Almost $5K to "avoid the hassles" ??? Thats a whole heap of extra mods you would be sacraficing.

$600/yr?! my 32 is only $415/yr! but yeah, my mate keeping the torana registered was mainly so it could still be driven places to be worked on without needing to get permits or towies, to keep his oldschool SSI-976 plates and avoid hassle when getting the new engine licensed.

[32vspecII]

i was at east perth pits last week and a guy was getting a mercedes over the pits after being de-regged for an accident and they really went over it , they wanted a list of parts repaired !

definetly not worth the hassle but if you do you just need your old rego papers and the compliance plate fitted to the car and your fine from that side of things

[Hermit_]

My 2 yen/cents (at current exchange rates) :

You should have no troubles with the licencing of an import that has a compliance plate fitted and has previously been registered in WA. It's the same as licencing a Toyota Corolla made in Japan (or maybe some other country). It is an imported vehicle that has to be modified to Australian Standards and have a compliance plate fitted before being allowed to be registered, basically the same process that your stagea went through.

The important things that the inspectors would look at is if the vehicle has been repaired correctly and is roadworthy and legal.

If you think that it will take 6 months or more (and it's usually always more if you do it yourself) then I'd take off the plates and save the money. If/when it is able to be driven on the road for either inspection or to get work done to it then just pay $14.50 for a vehicle movement permit from the Department of Planning and Infrastructure which will last for 48 hours.

Just keep a copy of your registration papers to give to the inspectors (if they want it( just to make things easier. They can find out all the information on your vehicle from the VIN, or engine number or old registration number anyway.

HTH's

Hermit_

(finally posting after 2 years;) )

I am hoping for a little advice here. My stagea has recently been involved in a nasty accident that is going to have it off the road for possibly six months or more, and the rego is about to run out. As I am going to be doing the majority of the work myself to repair it, I was considering taking the plates off and taking it over the pits when it is ready to drive again, rather than p1ss the rego money up the wall when it won't actually be drivable. My question is this - how much difference is there between taking a complianced import over the pits compared to taking a domestic car? I have re-licenced falcodores before, but I am unsure of what sort of documentation I will need to retag the stagea.

I should point out that my car is not a recent import, it was actually the test car for WA compliance for stageas so I don't actually have copies of the compliance paperwork, although I am assuming they won't be hard to get hold of?

Any and all advice on this would be hugely appreciated

[Stinky Rooster]

Woah - I am honoured that a proffesional lurker such as yourself has come out of hiding!

Thanks heaps for that hermit. Its exactly what I wanted to hear. The repairs itself is not at all structural or anything, they are just about all cosmetic other than the replacement of the radiator support panel and all welding will be done by proffesionals, not me.

its just that I am going to be combining them with the conversion to a Neo S2 engine and triptronic gearbox at the same time, this is where the time gets blown out a bit. Your probably right too - 6 months is optimistic.

[mitchy_]

took me about 4 months to do my engine.. but i'm lazy.

(there was probably only about 3-4 days of actual work though )

[R32 Driver]

$600 for a full years rego is about right for a larger car half that is approx $350

if you only have 6 months rego left and you hand in the plates you will only get $250~ back coz of admin fees etc etc

As hermit said you will need to get a temp moving permit for $14.50 before u can drive it to another workshop to get it repaired/engine/gearbox change. then an inspection fee of $56.50 and if you fail you'd have to pay a re-inspection fee of $30 something. As long as the car has compliance plate, and you have previous rego or transfer papers you will be fine.

I havent had any inspectors ask for a list of parts repaired and ive been to pits around 8 times (different cars different issues) i go to the welshpool pits.

Down side is you will save $180 if all goes smoothly but your going to have to get to pits very very early like 5am to beat the crowd coz when they open at 8 theres lke 30-40 people infront of you and if you allow 20-30 mins each thats easily a few hours wait

gawd thats a long type, hope it helps

[G_Force]

Down side is you will save $180 if all goes smoothly but your going to have to get to pits very very early like 5am to beat the crowd coz when they open at 8 theres lke 30-40 people infront of you and if you allow 20-30 mins each thats easily a few hours wait

Agree with ^^ Have u been to the pits lately n seen the queues? There was even a review on it on A Current Affair. Everyone that i know that has been pass the pits last couple of mths was there for the day. Queing up from 6am on until 3-4pm. And if u happen to be one that was in line all day but not get ur chance for inspection b4 they close, ull have to come back another day. I dont know bout u but having to take a day off just for that would cost me more in wages.

My biggest fear is having to go past THE PITS......

[bubba]

Dale, to be honest mate, I'd keep it rego'd.. especially as you are putting a different engine in.. 6 months rego is less than a days pay (specially for you contractor bastards ).

[R32 Driver]

Agree with ^^ Have u been to the pits lately n seen the queues? There was even a review on it on A Current Affair. Everyone that i know that has been pass the pits last couple of mths was there for the day. Queing up from 6am on until 3-4pm. And if u happen to be one that was in line all day but not get ur chance for inspection b4 they close, ull have to come back another day. I dont know bout u but having to take a day off just for that would cost me more in wages.

My biggest fear is having to go past THE PITS......

last time i went was about a month ago

farking oath went at 6am and i was the 21st or 22nd person there

then someones car in my lane broke down........ omfg people behind me were getting ahead in the other lane!

got outta there at 11-11:30 ish

the line was all the way out onto the road lol

[Tofu]

2 weeks ago, it took me 6 hours. I have another date with the pits in a week or so...

[Hermit_]

If you're going to change the engine then you "have" to go over the pits anyway, (if you want to be legal).

Changing the enging number means an inspection and if you;re also changing from a manual to auto you'll need to have that inspected and noted on your registration papers. It probably won't make a difference to the average cop who pulls you over and looks under the bonnet but if you ever have an accident then you're in a world of trouble with the insurance companies. They won't pay out on any claim as you car would be deemed to be unroadworthy and also to have illegal modifications.

A hawk eyed cop could also give you an infringement for not having the correct information on your registration papers and then could put either a yellow or red sticker on your car.

To avoid a lot of hassle you may find it better to get an engineers report on the conversion also. The many compliance workshops could do this and would cost around $300.00 or so, about the same amount of money that you'd save by de-registering the car

Hermit...

Woah - I am honoured that a proffesional lurker such as yourself has come out of hiding!

Thanks heaps for that hermit. Its exactly what I wanted to hear. The repairs itself is not at all structural or anything, they are just about all cosmetic other than the replacement of the radiator support panel and all welding will be done by proffesionals, not me.

its just that I am going to be combining them with the conversion to a Neo S2 engine and triptronic gearbox at the same time, this is where the time gets blown out a bit. Your probably right too - 6 months is optimistic.

[Stinky Rooster]

If you're going to change the engine then you "have" to go over the pits anyway, (if you want to be legal).

Changing the enging number means an inspection and if you;re also changing from a manual to auto you'll need to have that inspected and noted on your registration papers. It probably won't make a difference to the average cop who pulls you over and looks under the bonnet but if you ever have an accident then you're in a world of trouble with the insurance companies. They won't pay out on any claim as you car would be deemed to be unroadworthy and also to have illegal modifications.

A hawk eyed cop could also give you an infringement for not having the correct information on your registration papers and then could put either a yellow or red sticker on your car.

To avoid a lot of hassle you may find it better to get an engineers report on the conversion also. The many compliance workshops could do this and would cost around $300.00 or so, about the same amount of money that you'd save by de-registering the car

Hermit...

I have already looked into the legalities of the conversion, and it doesn't need to be inspected because

a) its already an auto (just not triptronic but its viewed as the same thing in the eyes of the rego authority)

b) the engine is going from a RB25DET to a RB25DET Neo and this can be registered with just a change of details form (engine number only required) as this is viewed as the same as a reconditioned engine being dropped in.