Winton

[R32gts-t]

I received these in an email the other day,

I don't know the driver or how it happened, I feel sorry for him/her though and hope their ok.

Not entirely sure how the driver managed to come off so hard at that section at winton, it does however show that porsches have fairly strong front ends, considering there is no engine there to soak up the concrete is broke through,

not bad for a practice day...

EDIT: sorry, I have posted the pics in the wrong order, view from the bottom up to see sequence.

[Whiplash]

wow thats not nice, Hope the driver is ok.

My mate had an accident there at the AMRS round last month and did a huge amount of damage to his 996GT2R ($20,000) and the Maserati involved had around $50,000

I can't believe how far that has moved that cement block!!

Edited May 31, 2007 by Whiplash

[r33_racer]

fark...thats every racers nightmare. The only thing worse then that is totalling your car and dying. Good thing he didnt die, or atleast i hope he didnt. He must have been flying when he come off, especially to break through the barrier.

[Ashy Larry]

Jesus.

That boy must have been flying... Flux capacitor engaged at 1.2 gigawatts

Secondly, the jersey barriers are tuff SOB's for something to move it that far is amazing, Jokes aside it is great to see somebody walk away from that.

Hope it is only his pride dented and not his health. Get back on the track soon mate

Mike

[phunky_monkey]

wow thats not nice, Hope the driver is ok.

My mate had an accident there at the AMRS round last month and did a huge amount of damage to his 996GT2R ($20,000) and the Maserati involved had around $50,000

I can't believe how far that has moved that cement block!!

Love that GT2R mate, I was at Winton on the Saturday watching it.

That is a big accident!! He has done some serious damage to that barrier...

[eMsta]

well that just diminished my hopes of taking my car to the track.......

[R32gts-t]

any opinions on how the car ended up where it did?

i mean, how much speed can you carry into the right hander onto the straight?

or, is it a case of getting crossed up in between the left and the right and spinning off into the wall...

it's got me tossed as to how you could manage to smash through the wall there, it's not a super super warp speed section... or maybe it is for some.

[Roy]

That was a recent acco at Winton, it was a John Bowe Driver Training Day. See what happens when driving aid gimmicks go to lunch...you are left with a high speed breakfast

[phunky_monkey]

Emsta: Don't let it do that man, track days are the best fun you can have clothes on or off

Greg: I dunno mate, seems like a fair crash to take the wall out that bad. I dare say I could carry at least as much speed as him through there and couldn't see myself doing that to the wall. Then again half my car is fibreglass so it would have disintegrated if I hit the wall

[Roy]

General consensus is with Porsches and other modern cars with traction control and stability control etc. If you ride a ripple strip and that wheel speed sensor sees a differenct speed because its in teh air etc, or it hits the grainy/dirty line tec the computers can shit themselvs and pinch the brakes on the other side of the car etc thinking that there is a proble. I have heard a few stories about this causign problems from a guy i know in teh Porsche clyb. When i rang my RE55 guy the other week a guy wsas there who had driven frm PI at 40km/h on 4 square tyres because the computers tried to kill him

[Yawn]

There's quite a lot of run off at that corner too..

[STATUS]

That was a recent acco at Winton, it was a John Bowe Driver Training Day. See what happens when driving aid gimmicks go to lunch...you are left with a high speed breakfast

Are you sure it aint just some mega rich dudes bruised ego making excuses? i have heard horror stories from the guys who run these types of training days..... heaps of cash and no skill=big accident.

Look at the ferrari at mallala last year.

[Roy]

Possibly, but how do you steer a car straight ahead in what is a 120km/h corner and miss the "oh i better turn right" thne fail to pull up the car when in the grass...only to plough through the concrete?

I dont have any trouble believing it may have happened. On that corner you hang left and ride ripple strip getting the vcar ready to belt through the right hander up the hill. So if he hit the curb on the left a little hard?!?!?!?!?! Then i have heard stories of Prosches and ABS on grass as well.

Who knows. All i know is it doesnt take much to have an accident at the track. No doubt it could have been an inexperienced guy in a quick Prosche, but my experience is its the guys who have the experience that are binning cars

[djr81]

Well wet grass + ABS = you will be stopping next week sometime or in the wall, whichever is closer.

[STATUS]

yeah true dat abs+wet grass = damage

Edited June 1, 2007 by URAS

[Beer Baron]

wow thats not nice, Hope the driver is ok.

My mate had an accident there at the AMRS round last month and did a huge amount of damage to his 996GT2R ($20,000) and the Maserati involved had around $50,000

I can't believe how far that has moved that cement block!!

lol, $20K repair on a 996 GT2 must have been just a scratch! when my friends and I ran a GT3 Cup Car for 2 year the repair bill was astounding. carbon doors aren't cheap, we went through 2 of them. a kevlar rear bar runs to around $8,000 from memory (we went through 2 of them in one race weekend! porsche ran out so the third one was a fibreglass second handie). and finaly when he stuck it into the wall at eastern creek the repair bill last I checked was $80K and climbing...

[phunky_monkey]

Troy, I've heard similar things mate, especially with speed sensors and jumping ripple strips in 996 turbo's.

[Whiplash]

Richard, Wayne owns a boat company and make all his own carbon fibre panels so that helps keep the bill down, It ended up tearing the right rear wheel and suspension out of the car. Then again he also has a spare one for parts.

phunky there should be another 3-4 of those GT2R's out here soon aswell, Belgium is having a clearance sale as they have now been banned there and this is one of the last places for them to race If you go to any of the other Vic rounds let me know as i may be at them with the Guys.

[Jamezilla]

This car ended up next door (Weltmeister) the other week. Much shorter than a standard 911 now.

The day was a private hire of Winton by a bunch of medicos. Word is he just didn't turn right at the flip flop - driver brain fade.

[Belsil80]

...just didnt turn right... must be a nascar driver.