Post EPA Syndrome

[Rossco_Grey33]

Hey Guys...

Well, I had my EPA test on thursday. I managed to get ahold of a Stock muffler, and had the rest of the exhaust made from there. The result? a ear piercing 82DB, with some emmissions thing at like 0.1 or something too. *shrugs*

It wasn't nearly as bad as I'd thought it'd be, I mean, I've read stories on forums about the EPA guys almost stripping the whole car out to check everything out. But yeah, I was in and out in like 10mins. Nothing said about non stock BOV (It was plumbed back though) and nothing said about air/fuel controller.

Once again thanks for the help, offers to borrow parts, and stories to calm my nerve's, it was much appreciated!

...Now I just gotta get my other exhaust back on ;-)

Cheers!

-Ross

[sniffy]

good to see all is well!

[Al]

Glad to hear it!

Hope to see ya at a cruise!

[Guest RedLineGTR]

good it went all well

[Ronin 09]

excellent work. did you go to the EPA test station, or just an exhaust shop?

[JET-33]

yeh i think if they say too loud u can just get a report sayin wot it is and send it in..

and apparently some people got epad, and when they showed up it was just cops there..not even the epa lookin at the car...such f**ks

[whistla]

i dread mine next wednesday

iv got my car booked in on friday to get most of it back to stock...argh

[Guest INASNT]

the guys at the mcloud test station are good guys, i had no trouble when i went there either 10 mins and i was away! Cops r the only assholes not the epa inspectors, and from the quiet word i had with 1 of em they know some cops just report cars to the epa without knowing shit about what they are reporting.

[Rossco_Grey33]

Originally posted by Ronin 09

excellent work. did you go to the EPA test station, or just an exhaust shop?

EPA Testing station, Mcloud as INASNT said. And yeah they were pretty laid back guys, which made things feel a lot better for me.

And Whistla, if there's any parts or anything you need for wednesday let me know, I'll definitely help out if I can ;-)

Cheers!

[whistla]

im taking the majority of stuff out, including the ECU

the whole exhaust stays but im doing away with my cannon and putting the more sedate custom muffler i had made when i first had my exhaust done

its pretty quiet, hope it passes

i dont want to risk it, so im doing the whole thing properly

thanx for the offer, i may need to take it up if the exhaust noise doesnt pass

[darkstar]

who pays for the EPA check?

Do you get a fine, or do you have a fee that you have to pay to get the EPA check.

If you fail, i think you can get a fine and/or an extention to make the car comply, if it doesnt comply after 3 times, then you pay a big fine and pull the car off the road for good. Something like this anyway.

If the victim doesnt pay for the test, and the police decide to EPA everyone (seems to be the norm thesedays) then the epa could get stroppy over the costs of such epa test, and perhaps instruct only EPA those cars that are suspicious, not stock.

What happens if you get multiple EPA's but you pass them all? Can you perhaps consult the EPA and tell them to stop wasting your time? Really, its a little childish, getting requests every month or so when the car is perfectly sound (regardless if you return it back to stock or not).

A lawyer in a new monaro, when they were new, was pulled over by a cop and majorly 'defected'. The lawyer took it to court, sued the cop for a variety of things, such as, loss of work/production/time amongst other things and supplied his bill of a few grand to the cop. Laywer wins, cop station has whopping bill to pay due to the cops greedyness (the laywer probably sued the police admin, not the actual officer).

They have a gutless approach these days. Its all about the radio in the plates, and mail out the fine. Pathetic really.

For the turbo crowd, its just a matter of bolt on/off, but for the worked naturally aspirated people, such as V8s, the whole engine needs to be stripped and return to stock, especially if its running a higher compression through speicalised pistons or shaved heads, and perhaps a solid lifter valvetrain.

Did the EPA do a special proceedure with a microphone pickup on a tripod, at a certain distance away from the car, with a whole lot of other variables, or did htey just stand with a dB meter? I think there is a speical way they have to do it to test, to make sure hte experiment is the same as the standard experiment.

Also, did they have a book and went through your enigne bay, ensuring that your hoses are connected in the right place and so forth? They do take photos of non-standard items that they want changed, and refer to them if you dont pass the first time, or even if you do pass.

[whistla]

refer to my post in regards to the proceedure of how they tested the noise

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...25&pagenumber=2

as for knowing things in the engine bay, they seemed have known where to look for emission control devices and to see if their in working order

as for who pays? well EPA is government funded (so i belive and so i understand)

What happens if you get multiple EPA's but you pass them all?

This is what i want to know...its obvious that im going to put all my "epa defectable" items back on

But what happens if i get another notice in the mail?

Are my interactions with the EPA recorded againsts my registration? do i get a fine or registration withdrawn if it happens again?

Denham mantioned that the EPA guys said "they need photographic evidence" to call u in again..but how true is this?

My understanding is if i get caught again, i just make the car EPA safe again, pass the test and the cycle beings again