Speeding Fine Question

[Ryanrb25]

hey guys, i need some feedback.

last week i got done doin 75 in a 60 zone in murray bridge by a laser gun. later that day a bloke i work with said they can't do you for speeding if your traveling down a hill/slopped road. Is this correct?

I had only JUST come off the freeway so traveling at 120 for an hour and a bit makes 75 feel like 40.

any thoughts appreciated.

cheers Ryan

[skylineguy19]

i wish that were true, but i very highly doubt it.

[mikesr32]

how much was the fine?? i got done last week doing 120 in a 100 zone and got fined $77 buks! nice cop tho.. be interested 2 know wat u got for doin 15 over...

Edited July 2, 2007 by mikesr32

[Hillzy]

I know a very steep hill a speed cameras on all the time so I think you're mates giving you false hope

[OZ_Pomy]

i have also heard of this before but not sure if its correct mikesr32 how did u get of so lightly i got done 19kms over and got 3 points and a $279 fine a couple months back

[KISIN]

ull be getting roughly $250 pay-me card in the mail soon

[Cubes]

I remember reading some speedcamera usage guide or soemthing along those lines but it was a while ago so the technology may have changed.

A few things I remember that they are not supposed to do.

1. Not to be used in rain

2. not to be used in fog

3. not to be used down hill

I was pinged down a hill on my very first speeding fine so Im not sure how accurate the document i read was. Either that or the police don't follow the guidelines.

[Ryanrb25]

279 dollars and 3 points. oh well, should have been concentrating. thanks guys

[deant1]

yea the rule is under 15 $179. over 15 $279 and if you go over 25 kiss your licence and wallet good bye.

Hill or not they will ping you! BTW if it came through as your speed was only 15 over it means you were actually detected going faster than that because they knock of a % margin to rule out any comebacks.

[Deluxe]

Yeh your mate at work is getting his hands on some nice smoke......... Cars have brakes for a reason! Sorry to hear about your misfortune!

[redevil]

they aren't on hills that you cannot roll down in top gear in an auto or i think third in a manual, where it will not accelerate if not under acceleration

[Richie33]

I think they changed the laws quite a while back. I too remember the whole "can't get you going down a hill" thing, but they also never used to be able to hide the camera either... looks like they can get you speeding any way they like these days. BTW, if it was a laser gun they have to pull you over and give you the fine on the spot don't they.

[Tangles]

there are plenty of documents out there available for the public

google

cant set up speed detection devices on bends, on slopes, on areas with a lot of concrete, near signs, across lanes of traffic, cant hide the cameras either - they need to be clearly visable, etc etc etc, cops still do all the above tho. It is written into their regulations and guidlines on how to operate these units.

good luck fighting it tho.

use your right, take it to court.

[Pauly33GTS-t]

someone recently in melbourne won against the police in court because he used a GPS device as evidence.

[Madaz]

cubes and tangles are correct

take it to court it WILL cost you $1500 ill see what paper work i have @ home tonight

[mesmerized]

doesn't matter if your going down hill, your still speeding, don't bother trying to contest it

fixed speed cameras will get you if you're doing 10% greater than the speed limit

both these facts verified with a cop

[Madaz]

doesn't matter if your going down hill, your still speeding, don't bother trying to contest it

fixed speed cameras will get you if you're doing 10% greater than the speed limit

both these facts verified with a cop

it certainly does matter if your going down hill and NOT[/] speeding

early last year i got pulled over and alleged i was doing 147 in a 100 zone this was round a bend near nice shinny high street lights @ gawler ive fought it all the way and got on them to say i was doing 90 in a 80 zone no dangerous driving no conviction no LOSS of license to which is a huge inconvenience for me

BTW i wasnt doing much over 110 in the 100 zone

the laser guns are a crock they a so inaccurate its not funny and then there is the procedure of calibration which they would like you to think happens every week every time the gun is knocked say in the officers saddle bags its putting the lazer out of wack

[deant1]

Them radars and laser guns are very inconsistant. by changing lanes (ie: moving sideways or even going around a curve) it severely changes the output from the units.

hence they cannot be set up on bends. however i watched a program debating the use of these by the police and defence in court etc etc.

End of the day, chin up and pay the fine otherwise you'll end up paying more out in court anyway. unless it would result in loss of licence.

[sinistaGTR]

Im a radar technician (no joke its part of my job at work with electronics), and yeh these radar guns they use are crap, basically its hard to get an accurate reading due to the factors that reflect the radar waves. they have even got readings of 20km/hr on a rock wall, its all to do with the doppler effect and the reflection of the radar waves that are transmitted. Basically but its much easier to pay the fine than take it to court to fight for your $100.

[Pauly33GTS-t]

trying to get on the news dan lol