Skyline car club.Supported by SST and Per4manz

[GTS-t VSPEC]

No.18:p

Adam, I'm glad your having input, and quite rightly too, there are many things which will need to be discussed, but will be much easier in a meeting format. Let's hope we can form a club which will make everyone happy:D

PS, So your telling me I don't earn $1 from every post? Damn:(

[G0DF4Th3R]

Ok this is a relevant question to Steve

what do u mean by advertising rights?

[N I B]

This needs to be discussed at the meeting, I was thinking of a SST Tattoo on every ones forehead!

[Sneeza]

Bam - it means when we hold events or SAU members compete at events - SST and per4manz will be able to advertise through the SAU club at this event. Because they have donated money or offered discounts - they have advertising rights over some one who comes up and says " hey can I have a banner at your stall"

One question - why are alot of people apprently so opposed to being financial members of an official club? It will all go towards making the club better, its not the money is going to one person. If you want to be part of a real club that can offer you benefits - then why should members be "freeloaders". The SAU forums will still be open to non-members..... All the money will help the club become established on the circuit - from the tax issues to putting on decent appearences at car shows.

[G0DF4Th3R]

i see

thanks Liz

Steve - wouldnt mind some SST stickers on my car, if you;ll tune my car for half price lol gotta draw a line at the tattoo idea tho

[N I B]

We can do rice and race.We need all the cash we can get don't under estimate the cost of things like hiring tracks or display equipment for shows etc. We need sponsors and club fees plus every other type of fund raising we can get.If people don't want

Sponsors i am still keen to join. I have sponsored other clubs

like South west touring car club and i had SST banners at the tracks and SST logos in the supp regs and no favours.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Steve,

I think most people are keen for sponsorship, just a few people were concerned what the implications were, but I'm sure that at the first meeting most of these concerns can be addressed and everyone will be happy:D

[adam 32]

paul; exactly

i think its a great idea for SST and per4manz to sponsor the organisation of a club, but there are issues to be dealt with before we launch into it

[GTS-t VSPEC]

No formal decisions can really be made before the AGM, so Troy and others are just going through the steps of forming the club. No-one has or will be automatically elected, that will be up to the members.

In order to have your input you will just need to be a fully paid member, and it looks like the cost will be quite reasonable, considering we'll be getting CAMS membership aswell:D

[skyzerr33]

Originally posted by GTS-t VSPEC

No formal decisions can really be made before the AGM, so Troy and others are just going through the steps of forming the club. No-one has or will be automatically elected, that will be up to the members.

i agree that no one should be automatically selected.

but in order to get CAMS affiliation and also become incorperated (which u have to be before CAMS will even look at you) you need atleast a 5 person committee, I'm sorry these are the facts. What it doesn't say is how this committee is to operate. I also agree that ideas, plans etc should be majority based and note voted solely by a select few.

Adam as mentioned above you do need a president, vice president, secratary and treasurer. These positions in the legal documents need to be there. There roles however can be determined in the constitution which can be written to be whatever the majority feels is best for the club.

also unfortunatley u need this committee before the club can become incorperated.

We can lodge the advertisement saying we intend to form a club and then have 3 months to lodge the paper work for the club. in this time we can sort the details out.

[Guest KMale]

Originally posted by adam 32

im not really a fan of the president and committe thing though, although understand that it may be essential also... by making someone 'in charge' of SAU goes against the main premise upon which SAU was first established.

basically i dont agree with the hierarchy thing - can this be avoided? or do we need a club president, board etc etc

Adam ...I can understand your concerns and they are valid. However as someone who has sat on many committees and chaired many as well, I can tell you that the exectutive always has the best interests of the club and members at heart.

I am sure that by the nature of SAU-WA that the committee members will be intouch with what the majority of the members want from their club. It is also important to note that the club and therefore the executive can be as active as it chooses to be. If the club wants to stay pretty low key and remain a loose social type club with one or two events per annum then the members will dictate that.

I expect that during the startup phase that many members will be concerned with not contributing too much money. At the AGM it may be decided to incorporate the club but hold back on the cams affiliation for a little while. I dunno ...but all these type of issues will be dicussed and the cost benefit analysis explained.

Also from experience ...the President on these types of committees is nothing more than a chairman (someone has to control meetings) and slave labour.

If you are against incorporation you need to come to the meeting and speak against it. If you are for incorporation but don't want to see the club go off in directions you are not happy with then you need to raise your hand and become a committee member. However ...I think that your vision of someone grabbing power and spoiling things is not real.

I do agree however that inadvertently the club could loose direction and deliver something that doesn't offer value to its members. This is why everyone needs to spell out in simple terms what they expect from a WA Skyline Club, how much time they are willing to contribute and how much money they are prepared to part with.

[N I B]

In the future we can run open Dyno shootouts and charge

non members the standard cost for shootouts($35) and put

the extra in to club activities, and i can arrange group buys from

my wholesale suppliers. Plus a cash payment to help form a club

has to be a good thing.I have had a lot of people in the shop

keen for this club to happen so the club should get on to its own

feet very soon and i think we need all the early money we can get. 50+ members is going to be easy.

[caminperth]

I agree that it can't be anything but a good thing. I've had a fair amount of experience in dealing with sponsors in a club environment and I can assure you that they are more than happy to just help and recieve some advertising in return.

Some people are being a little paranoid me thinks..

[ix9]

Just a suggestion (although a bit off-topic)

Once the SAUWA club is formed, would it be possible to have a locked/private forum JUST for SAUWA official members, ie to hold track day, drag day information, cruise maps maybe? The less police attention the better.

We already have some locked/private forums in the NSW area, I think this will be a good idea so that MEMBERS can have thier say without (no offence to newbies or the like) newbies, or the guys from E/S whoring threads, and trolling our boards ?

This seems to be happening quite a lot recently...

-Kym.

[Pva_Glue]

to answer your question Kym, Perth mods are onto it already

[G0DF4Th3R]

i like the sound of group buys from wholesalers

[R33 Impul]

Count me in.

Can't wait for a track day at Wanneroo. Nothin like a 1380kg line sqirming around under brakes at the end of Tait Straight and then you go from 5th to 2nd as you turn into Novus (by mistake & when I had a manual 2 dr) compression lock the wheels for a split second get all out of shape then remember you still have to drive the thing home............Ahhhhhhhh gotta love that.

Sorry getting a bit carried away:D

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Yeah, it will be fun to do proper motorsport events:D Hopefully a Collie Track day is on the cards too:D

[adam 32]

thank god joe has sold his skyline

anyway, this really is whoring

any dates set for the first meeting - that way we can actually discuss the previously mentioned issues before going ahead

its not paranoid cam, this is something which has to be thought through before jumping on the bandwagon.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Troy will be posting a new thread when a meeting date has been chosen. I'm sure plenty of advanced warning will be given, so as many people as possible will have the opportunity to come:D

yeah everyone except paulie :elaugh: