cosworth1971 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 after installing a FMIC & big exhaust my car was blah! blah! blah! @over 3/4 throttle underload.did all the coil pak epoxy and ran down to .66 and it was still hesatating So advancing timing made it seem better it was masking the plugs because @ 25-30 btdc timing it wouldnt lag and the less the timing the worse the lag But just then i tried .5 copper plugs and went back to 15 deg timing like it should be and POW! no more blah!blah! or power stumble and it even spiked to 13psi without lag So guys with std coil paks and problem even try down .5 IMO Im so happy i have my car back after 15ooo kms of trouble :laughing-smiley-014: My theory is that weak coil paks and preasure dont mix(blows out spark) so if like me and cant afford splitfires yet try .5 for a tempish fix also i was a bit scared to do up plugs fairly tight(without too much!) but found i was doing them a bit lose <saves for new coils now with confidence thats it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 The car will be more efficient with a better gap on the plugs. So you might aswell start budgeting for new coil packs. The gains outweight the cons. It will get to a point where even .5mm wont work, so definately a temp fix, thats all the epoxy/tape/small gap ever has been Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosworth1971 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 The car will be more efficient with a better gap on the plugs.So you might aswell start budgeting for new coil packs. The gains outweight the cons. It will get to a point where even .5mm wont work, so definately a temp fix, thats all the epoxy/tape/small gap ever has been yes i will save mate. either it was the gap or the copper plugs?i went .5 straight up <from .66 irids but it alowed me to come back to 15 BTDC and yes a bigger gap will burn more and economy but do u think power up also?and im talking over 1-2 kw Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonus Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 yeh i went from 0.7mm to 0.6mm coppers today, and all my midrange hesitiation/misfire is all gone. now ive got another problem, my afm is maxing out at 200 rwks. wierd. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddr20 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 WOW 0.5 gapped plugs.. Thats insane.. AS if this isnt just a band-aid fix.. 0.5 gap?? way to small dude.. you have got other issues.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Anything less than .8mm and you have serious issues as a common rule Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosworth1971 Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 I refuse to believe that!,oh wait u mean the car :laughing-smiley-014: (joke) seriously i think my car quiet newish,do they make them to last 50000 kms Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonus Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Anything less than .8mm and you have serious issues as a common rule well, my tuner didnt seem to think so, and hes got a very good reputation, especially around here and with RB's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3236874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky_2.0T Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 i had some problems with my rb20, does it sound weak when idling? bubbly? try switching ECUs, solved my problem. I'd try all the little stuff, or borrow stuff, before spending alot on coil packs my .02 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3237223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clkngezz Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 wow, i would think that .5mm is going beyond border line, is it safe to do for a limited time?? i need new splitfires to but need cash to get them, im looking for a temp fix for about a month, i tried taping coils but it didnt do a thing! my problem was similar to yours, car hesitates after 4500 rpm now to about 6 then powerful again. IM wanting to try this but is it safe? can it cause more problems Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3237827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosworth1971 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 wow, i would think that .5mm is going beyond border line, is it safe to do for a limited time?? i need new splitfires to but need cash to get them, im looking for a temp fix for about a month, i tried taping coils but it didnt do a thing! my problem was similar to yours, car hesitates after 4500 rpm now to about 6 then powerful again. IM wanting to try this but is it safe? can it cause more problems problems like what?its only a spark.no like your changing its timing or votage........it may be smaller but under cold extreme presure the small gap has more chance to fire every time and not get blown out.yes a nice big spark will burn better but we all arent rich.im saving now but my problem was different to yours it never went powerfull again after 6 it just couldnt take WOT under load full stop. yes it may be crude but im broke atm maybe going from the iriduims to copper plugs helped also? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3237894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 well, my tuner didnt seem to think so, and hes got a very good reputation, especially around here and with RB's Well im glad i dont take my car there I didnt need a gap smaller than .8mm running 24psi/360rwkw on stock coils & ignition as mine were in good nick. So if you need to run less and think its acceptable, thats your decision. Im just telling you i feel there is an issue wether you want to fix/investigate it or not is again, your decision. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3238141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonus Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 the problem is the coils breaking down but id rather run the smaller gap even if it is a short term solution then have the misfire. Evenutally i will replace with splitfires but given the budget im on, i dont really have any other option.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3238503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
50FFT Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 What would be a good choice of plug gap even with splitfires??? Matt Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3238595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonus Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 What would be a good choice of plug gap even with splitfires???Matt 0.8mm or even closer to 1.1mm would be ideal Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3238616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosworth1971 Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Well im glad i dont take my car there I didnt need a gap smaller than .8mm running 24psi/360rwkw on stock coils & ignition as mine were in good nick. So if you need to run less and think its acceptable, thats your decision. Im just telling you i feel there is an issue wether you want to fix/investigate it or not is again, your decision. OMG 24psi @.8 on stock coils 0.8mm or even closer to 1.1mm would be ideal Man! your hot! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177069-just-did-plugs-5mm-and-kung-powim-back/#findComment-3239551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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