Help With Intercooler

[clkngezz]

hey guys i just recently got my fmic fitted, and it is kinda defeating the purpose, my intake pipe is straight above my fan and my pipe is getting quite warm, why have a fmic to cool the air, if it is just gonna heat up in the pipe again? is there any type of covering i can put in between my fan and piping to stop the heat transfering from the hot engine air??

or would it make any difference at all?

[Munkyb0y]

its pretty dumb really, but all the piping kits route the cold pipe past the radiator.

the best way would be to customize your piping, so the hot pipe from the turbo runs past the radiator, an into the drivers side of the cooler.

then your cold pipe can run the standard route from passenger side into the plenum. its a shorter distance, and doesnt pass through any hot areas.

[clkngezz]

oh ideally yes that would be great, but i dont really have the cash to do that being custom and evrythin, my best bet would have been to go for the same side/ entry/exit cooler, but we live and learn, is this a common problem with us rb25 folk? what are u others doing to prevent heat transfer or are we just dealing with it?

[dan_the_man]

you can get heat shielding wrap to wrap around the pipe. most race shops have it

doesnt look too awesome in the engine bay but it will help

[ossie_21]

its pretty dumb really, but all the piping kits route the cold pipe past the radiator.

the best way would be to customize your piping, so the hot pipe from the turbo runs past the radiator, an into the drivers side of the cooler.

then your cold pipe can run the standard route from passenger side into the plenum. its a shorter distance, and doesnt pass through any hot areas.

Is it just me or would that make the piping length massive? Still has to come across the block to go into the plenum as well...

But yeah even though the pipe gets warm the cooling effect you are getting very easily outweighs any problem with making the air a bit warmer around that pipe. To be honest I'd never really thought about that, but I wouldn't worry at all about it. When I first fitted my fmic it came across the same way, but now my piping is modified on the drivers side and doesnt go anywhere near there

[clkngezz]

yeh fair call, it just pisses me off to know all that effort to have no change! even though the piping gets hot, would the air inside be same tempreture?i might get a vented bonnet ???remove some of that hot air, i know for a fact the cooler is working becuase its cold before it enters the engine bay then warms up like FARK

[dan_the_man]

the air after it has passed the heated piping would still be considerably cooler... I dont think its a massive issue

[clkngezz]

yeh true, just want my car to be getting the best out of what mods i put in might try some heat shielding tape or something! is there a way to test intake tempretures? from intake piping?

[bubba]

You should have asked me about it yesterday

The heat transfer from pipe to air will be negligible as the air is moving pretty fast and compared to the volume of air passing through, there is very little contact area. As mentioned, you can wrap it. You can also space the bonnet up off the hinges if you're worried about under bonnet temps. As for intake temps, you'd need a thermocouple inserted just before the throttle body with a seperate gauge.

[lcy]

OIC.

so tis will affect all rb25s?

im driving a r34 gtt and i was planning to purchase a FMIC.

so should i just get the intercooler with out the kit and get some custom work done?

any ideas how much to get it done in Perth?

thanks for the info.

and one more thing does this affects the hks type S intercooler kit???

if it does ill just get the intercooler by itself and get some custom piping done.

Edited July 30, 2007 by lcy

[clkngezz]

icy u should really get same side entry/exit cooler, so piping is set up same as stock, no heat transfer from fan/engine

[clkngezz]

You should have asked me about it yesterday

The heat transfer from pipe to air will be negligible as the air is moving pretty fast and compared to the volume of air passing through, there is very little contact area. As mentioned, you can wrap it. You can also space the bonnet up off the hinges if you're worried about under bonnet temps. As for intake temps, you'd need a thermocouple inserted just before the throttle body with a seperate gauge.

hehe didnt cross my mind dude sorry , so u dont think the air in the pipe will heat up due to amount flowing through

[ashleyr33]

Put it this way.... You will not notice any loss of power whilst driving, as bubba said the velocity of air over the pipe is too fast to transfer any significant amount of heat. You will probably get more radiant heat from the engine itself!

If you are really that concerned get some heat wrap.

Ash.

[clkngezz]

yeh ill see how the heat wrap goes, or get bonnet raised a little, i am planning on getting it repainted and realigned so might as well do it all at the same time be very interesting to see how cold the air actually is though compared to piping temp

[SMOKE'M]

obversly it's too late now as you have allready put it on but these are the three types i'v come across for thr 34

[kermit]

i do custom piping and agree that inlet and outlet on the same side of the cooler is soo much simpler and shorter and doesnt require messing with the battery or washer reservoir . only problem is that the front bar mounting point may need to be modified depending on the cooler .

kermit

[Munkyb0y]

Is it just me or would that make the piping length massive? Still has to come across the block to go into the plenum as well...

it's just you

the piping wont be any longer.

[dan_the_man]

example of a wrapped pipe.

[MMM]

i do custom piping and agree that inlet and outlet on the same side of the cooler is soo much simpler and shorter and doesnt require messing with the battery or washer reservoir . only problem is that the front bar mounting point may need to be modified depending on the cooler .

kermit

battery is in boot and washer bottle isnt affected

[clkngezz]

correction MMM depends on the kit u get the one i got from JJ the washer bottle needed to be removed