Cruise today Friday 13th

[Steve]

Thinks I saw in a HPI article (or Zoom) where they said that the car has to be on the road, ie public place for a defect to be issued. Might have to check back issues.

[EnricoPalazzo]

All u do is find a similar R33 GTR stock for a day, put ur plates and rego sticker on it and put it through. As they dont have engine no. VIN no etc etc, and that it has ur plates, well then it Must b your car. Just say that the article was a hoax.

If i had a GTR i would lend it to u

[Steve]

Dude, what is on the rego sticker - havent had a close look at one lately have you?

[Maxx]

not a really good cruise tonight, only 3 cars - me, Andrew & John.

But i do visit a DAMN nice house, so it all worthwhile.

p.s. my gf is yelling at me to sell my car and make way for a house similar...

[hippy]

next week will be big ... hopefully there will be like 30 cars like the cruise rob organised not so long ago ... that one was great!!! heaps of cars .. not just lines .. but lots of 180 etc ... be there!!!

[EnricoPalazzo]

Yeh but what im sayin is when i went through Regency they didnt check Rego, VIn or Eng no. Maybe i was lucky?

[CheekyR32]

Yep. 3 cars was still fun anyway. Damn fine house Andrew, love the 8 ball room - will have to organise another 8 ball shootout sometime.

see you all on the cruise next friday,

till then.

[TIMMMAYYY]

Hey i rocked up too ya know!!! But had other shit to take care of. Ohh well,lookin forward to the June 20th CRUISE!!!

[Martin Donnon]

Originally posted by Clint32

In future any magazine articles will have to not include the owners name and remove rumber plates before photos are taken or many more of these letters are sent out.

I think the situation needs to be clarified a bit. John specifically requested his number plates be used, shot, left on the car, the whole way, as a specific bait for this kind of response....over 6 or so issues, including a cover, poster, and detailed explanations of how the 'streeter' was turned into a track only racecar. The RTA obviously got concerned with the prospect of having a 9.4 second 155mph car with little intrusion protection, reduced frontal strength, and the inability to run on 'servo' fuel on the road....as they should. I wouldnt want to have Munro heading towards me or my family in that thing, on the street. Word is one of the RTA guys has also watched both the fast GTRs here run, and was horrified with the way they torque steer all over the place at high speed. Watch for much increased checking of Skyline suspensions at the RTA now.

RTA inspectors take rego plates at the street drags - have done for years, with one or two of them working as scrutineers. They also have the ability, even while driving home from work to take down your rego number and send you mail notification of a pending defect if you do no present within XX days. They do read most of the magazines, but are generally pretty cool about it. Normally they will only take action against known trouble makers (ie. numerous dobbed in rego reports for illegal racing, burnouts, etc.) or those that want to continually rub their nose in it.

[MattR]

Thanks for the info Martin, helpfull as allways

[Steve]

Originally posted by Martin Donnon

John specifically requested his number plates be used, shot, left on the car, the whole way, as a specific bait for this kind of response....

Can you clarify this please, I am not sure exacly what you mean by 'bait for this kind of response'

Cheers

Steve

[Clint32]

Yeah thanks Martin, looks like my car will be put on our truck in future if i go to the drags.

[Steve]

Typical beaurocracy - lets have a street drag meet, so the guys who want to do it legally can, then we'll defect them for driving the cars there. How does this encourage people who want to drag race to keep it at the strip?

I am all for cars on the road being roadworthy, but at the end of the day, what is the greater problem, the car or the driver? How hard is it to drive a bog stock gemini irresponsibly for example - woudnt have to push it very hard before it becomes a danger.

[Munro]

I did want to push the envelope as far as I could as far as having

a 9 second "street car" & part of that was running the plates on it at the drags - but as far as driving the car regularly on the street, we all know that a car like that is not legal or streetable.

I am dissappointed that the car cannot be registered again, but who was I kidding.

the reason I posted what I did was because I do not intend to have the same problem with any other cars in the future so I will have to be careful. I do think that cars should be safe on the street.Just because I think an 800hp GTR with uprated suspension& brakes to match is "safe" for me to drive on the street, does not mean that someone else can do the same thing & not kill someone.So where does the Transport Authority draw the line?They have to allow for the minimum skill level & unfortunately that means that high powered cars are out.

I do think that guys doing the right thing & taking cars out to the drags, rather than racing on the street, & then being singled out for defects is pretty poor - it encourages us to run amuk elsewhere for fear of being nabbed for doing the right thing. Hmmm. what pissed me off is that we are targeted when it's young guys in VN commodores & such, with no driving ability whatsoever, who kill themselves & others - then the media screams about modified cars being the problem.

Compulsary driver training, different levels of track experience, collision avoidance courses should all be part of having a licence.

Top level being - licence to have a sick car 'cause you've proved you can handle it.

this will never happen, so we are stuck with the current system.

there is nothing we can do about it - if we want to speed we have to move to NT or Germany!

Or go to the track - WITHOUT being penilised later.

[TIMMMAYYY]

I think more so common sense is a requirement rather than having different kinds of licence/car ratings. IMHO i think that having different skill level ratings only encourages the ego's of younger drivers (like myself, 19) to hoon around and think they're top shit on the roads, and inevitably causing a crash if they hav a higher rating of licence.

I totally agree with you john on the newpaper saying that all the deaths and accidents ar caused by hoons in modified cars, but yes, they are hoons, and no, the cars that they drive, are typically not fast ones( It appears that the impression most people have is that you need a fast car to do damage to property or other people). I am referring to the case where a young fella (had his licence for not even a month) and took his mates out for a drive when he got his P's in his VN n wrapped out around a pole.

So much for being a modified car, not fast, but still fast enough to do damage. I wonder what kind of speeds there were doing. I still cannot understand where the fun is in going out for a hoon in your mates, in the burbs, to see how fast your car goes. What is the mentality of these people who are doing this? Who do they think they are? And what sets them so far above every other motorist?? Go figure. It's got me f*cked and being younger and having a bit of hoon in my blood, I still can't figure out why this mentality exists.

Whats everyone elses thoughts?

Tim

[hippy]

last night i was at my gf place and she lives on anzac highway ... i had to walk outside cause someone needed to pick somehting up off me ... it was raining so the road was pretty wet ... anyways immediately what did i see?? at least 2 vn commies and some other commies VS's i think .. reving their cars up, overtaking dangerously ... and this when the road is dangerously wet ... why dont' those rta scrutineers or whoever they are go on a friday or saturday night just go to anzac highway on a saturday night ... they could send out 10000 letters every weekend ...

[hippy]

i wouldn't even go the speed limit on a wet road ..

[TIMMMAYYY]

Nar I dont do the limit either. There's no point. You only get stuck at the next set of lights and the brakes on the 31 in the wet aren't that flash.

[Nightcrawler]

*coff* yes racing in the wet is stupid *coff*

I am 100% with John on this one, I have always believed that defensive driver ed courses should be compulsory for getting your licence, and indeed every 5 years thereafter. If the govt really gave a shit about the road toll they would heavily subsidise courses for eveyone - the resultant reduction in the road toll/police attendances/ambulance attendances/3rd party person insurance claims would surely give massive long term benefit (as well as less dead people) - not to mention decreasing the likelyhood of some wanker in a VL smacking into you cos he doesn't know how to brake properly and doesn't respect the power of his car and subsequent speed.

So, I'll bring up the topic again - who wants to do a group driver training course? MattR brought this up a while back and I think we should pursue it. Sure it is a bit expensive, but if it saves you having an accident once it's well and truly worth it. Average excess even for a minor accident is like $650 or similar. Makes an investment in your driving seem cheap. Not to mention the fact that one day you might have to live with killing someone cos you couldn't stop properly! What IS your life worth???

[TIMMMAYYY]

OK so whats one of these courses worth? Im keen. Provided i can afford it!