R33 Gtr, Sales

[Beer Baron]

yes and no. if you had transfered it to yen when the AUD was buying 105JPY effectively you would have gained 15% in one day compared to what it is now.

[m3gtr]

perhaps, but thats 15 percent minus the transfer/wire fees. cant remember what it is off the top of my head..

still, how the hell are you supposed to ride that stuff? I barely have time to scratch my balls let alone read the market flow..!

[luvsit]

Judging by the overall quality and presentation of the majority of cars they sell, I concur.

The thread starter in this case could take a leaf out of Global Auto's book when it comes to taking good quality high resolution photos to help market a car for sale.

thanks but in case u havent noticed im not a photographer, the pics were reduced to load on the computer,

and thats it!

[m3gtr]

yes we have gotten slightly off topic havent we..?

i wonder what will happen to GTR prices in general..?

is this car going to become legendary or has all the attention rubbed the gloss of the legacy?

[Beer Baron]

perhaps, but thats 15 percent minus the transfer/wire fees. cant remember what it is off the top of my head..

still, how the hell are you supposed to ride that stuff? I barely have time to scratch my balls let alone read the market flow..!

TT fees are 22AUD and most japanese banks charge 2,500 yen also. so the total TT fees are $50 AUD. so if we are talking 5 or 10 grand or more here those fees don't count for much.

[m3gtr]

nah it's bad for your money in aus. the AUD has gone down. you would have been better off to send your aus money to japan when the rate was up over 100JPY/1AUD.

anyway, hopefully you'll get it. It's a nice car and a bit special being such a late model.

it is definitely the last of the mohicans...

650ps is WAY more than enough...i can tell you.

im getting all itchy scratchy goosepimply just thinking about it...

[ras1983]

yes we have gotten slightly off topic havent we..?

i wonder what will happen to GTR prices in general..?

is this car going to become legendary or has all the attention rubbed the gloss of the legacy?

i think GTR's will increase in price in the long run as long as they are kept relatively stock. just like any other 'classic' in the making. for example i'm sure there was a period in the GTHO's life when they were fairly cheap, and now its not uncommon to see original restored examples selling for over $100,000

makes you wonder if people think about the long term when they modify their cars.

just remember that most modifications will reduce the value of the car once it is old enough to be considered a classic.

[m3gtr]

so with your rationale in mind, do you think this guys off his tree on two fronts..?

1 for asking so much for a 140k old R32 and

2 for selling it??

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...al&R=864608

[m3gtr]

i think GTR's will increase in price in the long run as long as they are kept relatively stock. just like any other 'classic' in the making. for example i'm sure there was a period in the GTHO's life when they were fairly cheap, and now its not uncommon to see original restored examples selling for over $100,000

makes you wonder if people think about the long term when they modify their cars.

just remember that most modifications will reduce the value of the car once it is old enough to be considered a classic.

the GTHO never got this much notorious criticism and negative media driven backlashings, you have to remember,.

maybe the R32 will be an icon once almost everyone has forgotten about the skyline, except for a handful of dried up old crones harbouring a pristine 40k example in the back of a beaten old garage...in the year 2045..

[neergnevets]

Now that the generation that appreciates the BNR32 the most are starting to earn higher salaries, demand for stock standard examples is definitely on the increase. I believe prices bottomed at $20,000 and are on the increase. This is a big call, but because of it's godzilla status and heritage I think in 3 years clean examples will be worth mid to high 20's and roughly the same price as the R33 GTR.

[SiR_RB]

so with your rationale in mind, do you think this guys off his tree on two fronts..?

1 for asking so much for a 140k old R32 and

2 for selling it??

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...al&R=864608

203,000kms and the engine/engine bay/body looks Immaculate !

says alot about other r32 gtrs comin in with 60,000kms

[ras1983]

so with your rationale in mind, do you think this guys off his tree on two fronts..?

1 for asking so much for a 140k old R32 and

2 for selling it??

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...al&R=864608

Yes and no. Yes because a car like that will probably be worth a small fortune in 10 years time (assuming its kept in mint condition). No because if i was a cashed up GTR enthusiast who wanted a prime example of an R32 Godzilla, that car would be the perfect buying opportunity.

the GTHO never got this much notorious criticism and negative media driven backlashings, you have to remember,.

maybe the R32 will be an icon once almost everyone has forgotten about the skyline, except for a handful of dried up old crones harbouring a pristine 40k example in the back of a beaten old garage...in the year 2045..

The GTHO didn't cop this much notorious criticism and negative media driven backlashings? If i remember correctly the GTHO Phase III caused such a public outcry that ford decided to end development of the Phase IV and all subsequent Phase GTs.

If anything the Phase 3's notoriety is what makes it the collector's special it is today.

The following quote is from drive.com.au:

"The original 1969 GT HO was powered by a 5.8-litre V8 and was claimed to reach 100kmh in just 6.4 seconds, making it the most potent Australian-made muscle car of its time. However, by 1972, controversy about road-going race cars killed the GT HO Phase IV program before it hit dealerships."

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...D=9662&vf=1

Trust me, in the long run original well maintained GTRs of any example will be worth more than we expect.

[BAMR33]

so with your rationale in mind, do you think this guys off his tree on two fronts..?

1 for asking so much for a 140k old R32 and

2 for selling it??

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/priva...al&R=864608

I think it's reasonable since it's an Australian delivered GT-R. Stop it getting in the hands of some wannabe street racer who's first modifications would probably be pod filters and a bleed valve.

The wheels are about the only thing that lets it down a bit... Simmons

[akeenan]

well its much better than having the money sitting here accumulating a big fat ZERO interest!

If I was you id look into something like an ING account.. Im currently earning a little less then 7% and making a few hundred per month in interest. and I believe we are in the same boat..

buying a performance car to have fun is a good idea (if you can afford it).

Buying a performance car to have fun but looking to profit off it in the future isnt such a great idea.

Edited August 20, 2007 by akeenan

[700HP-GTR33]

Now that the generation that appreciates the BNR32 the most are starting to earn higher salaries, demand for stock standard examples is definitely on the increase. I believe prices bottomed at $20,000 and are on the increase. This is a big call, but because of it's godzilla status and heritage I think in 3 years clean examples will be worth mid to high 20's and roughly the same price as the R33 GTR.

Yes and No

In the long run..a R32 will be the cheapest and then R33 more expensive and the 34GTR well lets just say it will be

the equivalent of A GTHO Phase III...and this is in any form..worked or original...

So..if you want a Gem..get a GTR34...and lock it up.

My 2c...

Yes a bit off the topic...LOL

[RNS-11Z]

I sold my r33 gtr a year ago, 250kw @ all 4 for $26 000. It took ages to sell, and car had some nice mods. I would expect to pay less then that now, thats just me

[Birnie]

Just out of interest, how much insurance would you pay on a machine like that? (R33 GTR, 250awkws)

Particulalry what you sold cause if i upgraded, that's pretty much what i's want.

You can PM me if you like.

Just for comparisons sake, i pay $1280 for a R33 98 gtst,

....and maybe another reason they don't sell well is cause the R33 GTST's are pretty damn good in my opinion,

particularly with a few nice mods to get it up to the 250rwkws.

[NISMO]

Personally I think some of the problem is who is buying these cars.

You have buyers with barely a dollar to their name who don't give a toss and just want a GTR not thinking how much more they'll need to keep the car on the road after the intital buying price.

And then you have "enthusiasts" who have the money to buy the nicer examples.

The buyers who can't "really" afford the car drive the prices down.

e.g say i'm 22yrs old, buy a crap 32 GTR for 24K. 2 months into it I realise I need another 20k to get the car running in a decent way, and decide I can't afford this. Now I'm desperate to sell and get rid of it for 19k. Times this buy a few hundred and all of sudden there are a lot of cheap cars on the market which drive the price of all of the model down.

In the GTR's case, the VAST majority of buyers can't afford to look after the cars as they should be, which also puts a large number of absolute crap on the market.

[Minko]

Agreed with Nismo the prices fall so badly because they are bought by people who cant afford them & buy on loan so as soon as they have to spend a few grand on maintenance they cant afford it & have to sell in a hurry at a cheap price.

My 32 GT-R is for sale at a decent price(30K) eventually i will get close to it you just have to hold out, if you have a good example the right buyer will come along.

[Wink]

e.g say i'm 22yrs old, buy a crap 32 GTR for 24K. 2 months into it I realise I need another 20k to get the car running in a decent way,

FYI, $24k approx buys a pretty decent R32 GTR:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=176091