toluene/tolulon/methyle benzine

[qikr33]

hello all.Went to chase some toluene down went to most hardwares they didnt know wot i was on about,one lady said they use tolulon to add to their speed boat.I said this is the stuff where can i get it she said airport,i gave up..BUT autobarn has it named METHYL-BENZINE for $58 for 20 litres pretty expensive does anyone know who has it cheaper and also who can supply cheap race fuel in brizzy?without race licence if u can not publish details pm me i got lot of people keen .thanks

[YRL05S]

Shell have a methyl bezine that last time i brought it was about $ 40 for 20 litres. Mix 25% bezine 75% pulp

[51jay]

Toluene....Methyl Benzine.... same thing. Autobarn price has gone up $48 for 20L couple of months ago

[Roy]

I get mine in 20L drums from BP servos. They order it in, takes 2 days and costs $50.

If they ask its for washing engine parts.

[Guest 382 GZV - 4 Door R33]

What happens if you add more than 25% toluene? Is it bad or just pointlessly expensive?

Does it give you more power immediately or just allow you run more boost without pinging?

steve

[51jay]

You only get more power if you retune for it From memory adding 10% gives you about 102 octane

[Xeron]

you can run more boost and timing, thus better power. Plus it also makes for a nice little barrier of protection on hot summer days and the like.

[Spoolup]

At too high a concentration it destroys, deteriorates rubber , like in rubber fuel hose etc...

[qikr33]

thanks guys i will check it all out

[Guest 382 GZV - 4 Door R33]

Does anyone always run toluene in their car (like every tank they add 10%-15% or something like that) or is that just overkill (and horribly expensive). Is it better than octane booster?

Steve

[Busky2k]

I run toluene whenever I know im gonna drive my car hard; ie cruises etc. I use ~15% mix. Makes a good deal of difference, however for me its just as an extra measure of protection against detonation. Every little bit helps!

I'd rather use Toluene than a Octane Booster cos toluene is the real deal, doesnt coat ur plugs and leave deposits in your combustion chamber, and I know it works. Ive read _some_ octane boosters just "change" the sound of detonation (ie modify the flame front), so you cant hear it... Im not takin risks with that, true or not.

F1 cars used Toluene (albeit at a much higher conc tho). Cant go wrong there... =)

[rev210]

you can run 25-30% for best results.

[Sydneykid]

"F1 cars used Toluene" Yep, in the 80's and that was 20 years ago.

I prefer Elf Turbo Max, and it's legal.

[WHITE R32]

we run avgas with 20% toluene in the cortina which has over 650hp and 25 psi boost works well indeed......we buy from bp in 20L.....

[b2barker]

I think it also burns hotter, so while adding a lot is good for octane/spool time/boost it is bad for O2 sensors.

[YRL05S]

I used to run it all the time, a drum a fortnight. No good for O2 sensors or cats. I just run it as a buffer.

[ex_zero]

i might sound dumb, but where can you get Elf Turbo Max? i know its like race fuel, 102 octane(?), but do they sell it? or can you just get it on the track when u're at a track day?

[Roy]

You can get VP Racing fuels from Hume Performance in Liverpool, that was the closest to me its the only place i payed any attention to.

@ close to $4 per litre it may be legal, but expensive.

When you say 'and its legal' i appreciate that you shouldnt use toluene on the road, but is it still illegal to be using on the track???

Surely if cats can be removed , and drag cars can run blah, blah, blah, i can use some toluene in my tank at the track?

[Guest 382 GZV - 4 Door R33]

Is Avgas the same as Toluene? Where is Efl turbo max readily available (like Autobarn or shell for guys up in QLD).

YRL - I take it you don't run a little Toluene each tank anymore?

Autobarn Stones Corner has Methyl Benzine for $45 for 20L Brisbane people

Steve

[Xeron]

avgas is leaded, ya dont really wanna run it in an unleaded car.