Boost Controllers

[Guilt-Toy]

The turbotech does block all air to the wastegate (or actuator) untill there is boost in the line and then the air gets sent to the actuator depending on how much pressure you have put on the ball and spring so it should spool up as good or close to as good as the leading EBC's IMHO.

As for holding BETTER then a ebc.. im sure you if you got a $1000 ebc and then compared it to this $30 device on a dyno and did some power runs on the same car and showed the boost curve you will find that the EBC may bring boost on a tiny bit quicker and it may hold it straighter if setup correctly - now saying this as for the differences you would notice on the street there would probly be none at all that you could tell.

But hey.. lets not compare apples and organges here.. im sure my grandma's 120y would not go too bad compared to a BMW M3 now ey ?

Get the turbotech - try it. if it dont work for you then just sell it on here and buy a EBC. They are easy to sell because everyone wants one and does not want to wait the 2 weeks it takes to get it delivered normally.

my 2c

its true, but there are other ebc's out there that do the job

for instance, i had one of those $80 GFB bleed valves, it was great at the start, got it tuned with the safc and the boost wasn't steady at all on 12psi, it would creep and taper off all this crap... the tuner said "if you want a steady curve that doesn't taper off at the end get an EBC"

so next step was for the EBC, i found the Hybrid one for $250 delivered, the solenoid is the same as the turbosmart and the avcr's

i fitted that and the GFB one i got rid of, never went back to a bleed valve again... the turbotech ones seem different to bleed valves so who knows it might work just as well for the price

but no one has answered my question in post #9, does it come on boost as hard and fast as a ebc? and does it hold better than an ebc thats set up correctly?

at the end of the day your right its personal choice and now i would not piss on bleed valve or a manual boost controller

[Guilt-Toy]

Cheers.. check my last post. I do believe a decent EBC can hold boost better then a turbotech and bring it on quicker and have controll over how it comes on which you dont get with the turbotech. But you will need to spend around $500 and more.

I have been using turbotech controllers since that thread started was when i got one. I just rate them and think they are a good product because it saved me from the headaches and problems that i once had with a turbosmart bleed valve and I think it deserves credit for what it is.

Its a great product and im sure somone is makin a bit of $$ outta them.

actually when i first got my gt3540 put on etc etc i was told to get a good boost controller cos that "crap" you have there wont work with an external gate and stuff before puttin gon the dyno but i was keen to try it so we did and the results were amazing.. no one could believe how well it worked with a top mount turbo setup as well as how it worked with a small low mount setup

great answer there mate...

so what about the ebc coming on boost faster than the turbotech... or is that not true?

Edited August 22, 2007 by Guilt-Toy

[abu]

remmember AVCR is well over 10 years old and was never all that good to start with.... honestley they look good and thats it. A BLITZ DSBC will out perform it and the turbotech all day everyday

Agreed.

They look flash, but functionality wise they suck, they are not user friendly at all.

I had a BLITZ DSBC, and from what I read about it, and saw of it, was very easy to use/configure. Very easy to install and did what it was supposed to.

Again with the cost issue, why bother when a bleed valve can do the same thing, $300 vs $30.

I sold my BLITZ DSBC off as I decided I didnt need it, never installed it either.

Was more wank than practicality.

Edited August 22, 2007 by abu

[Gazee]

i notice a really big difference between my bleed valve and the ebc i've got

maybe the turbotech is very different compared to the GFB bleed valve i had

[Munkyb0y]

i was using a turbotech for a while. very impressed. it does its job well.

i only switched to an ebc coz it was already there on my piggyback, and the tuner set it up while i was on the dyno.

the result was identical. dead flat boost till the end

i think Guilt-Toy already pointed out, it doesnt bleed pressure, it blocks it.

alot of ppl look at it and instantly assume its crap. ie uras a few pages back. but then those ppl make alot of absolute statements like "i can gaurantee a power increase 100% of the time with a properly setup EBC like a DSBC etc (i hate AVCR's they really show their age nowadays)..... over a turbotech bleed valve (actually any bleeder)"

which would indicate that they would be wrong about 100% of the time. agreed?

maybe in their experience, with the particular setups they've played with.......which does not equal 100% of anything.

rant...i know, but it gets on my nerves

[Guilt-Toy]

they are totally different. the turbo tech uses a ball and spring and the screw puts pressure on the spring which puts pressure on the ball and the ball closes untill there is enough boost hitting it to open. So the ball will be moving up and down and bleeding excess air as well while still holding the same amount of boost.

i noticed a really big difference between my bleed valve and the ebc

maybe the turbotech is very different compared to the GFB bleed valve i had

[abu]

i noticed a really big difference between my bleed valve and the ebc

maybe the turbotech is very different compared to the GFB bleed valve i had

Used a GFB bleed valve on my falcon turbo, with TiAL ex gate, and it held boost fairly well too. I was impressed, but there pretty expensive, I mean, not unreasonable expensive, about $80.

Not sure what system they use, but the TURBOTECH use a ball bearing/spring system.

Edited August 22, 2007 by abu

[Gazee]

they are totally different. the turbo tech uses a ball and spring and the screw puts pressure on the spring which puts pressure on the ball and the ball closes untill there is enough boost hitting it to open. So the ball will be moving up and down and bleeding excess air as well while still holding the same amount of boost.

yea that is really different in that case, never sussed them out because i just baught an EBC after all the spiking and shit the GFB one gave me...

yea the GFB is just a bleeder abu, i found it to be garbage to be honest

maybe the extra features the ebc has given me wont let me go back to a manual boost controller

[Guilt-Toy]

the turbotech has 2 types.. some have a hole that bleeds air and some dont. mine had the hole in it and man i swear alot of air can come out of that hole on the dyno... heaps of pressure and air.. i was shocked.

i was using a turbotech for a while. very impressed. it does its job well.

i only switched to an ebc coz it was already there on my piggyback, and the tuner set it up while i was on the dyno.

the result was identical. dead flat boost till the end

i think Guilt-Toy already pointed out, it doesnt bleed pressure, it blocks it.

alot of ppl look at it and instantly assume its crap. ie uras a few pages back. but then those ppl make alot of absolute statements like "i can gaurantee a power increase 100% of the time with a properly setup EBC like a DSBC etc (i hate AVCR's they really show their age nowadays)..... over a turbotech bleed valve (actually any bleeder)"

which would indicate that they would be wrong about 100% of the time. agreed?

maybe in their experience, with the particular setups they've played with.......which does not equal 100% of anything.

rant...i know, but it gets on my nerves

[Munkyb0y]

the turbotech has 2 types.. some have a hole that bleeds air and some dont. mine had the hole in it and man i swear alot of air can come out of that hole on the dyno... heaps of pressure and air.. i was shocked.

but the bleeding in the one with the hole is only bleeding pressure caught between the turbotech and your actuator. ie less lag on the wastegate

essentially they are the same thing. not a bleeder but a restrictor...thats the beauty of it, adjustable restrictor.

[R338OY]

I just bought a TurboTech bleeder/restricter off Ebay! I'll give some feedback once i get it. Should be good.

For now i found this feature/review on it - TurboTech Boost Controller

Peace

[TTT]

no need for a review mate..

there is a 5 million page thread on it already

[STATUS]

i think Guilt-Toy already pointed out, it doesnt bleed pressure, it blocks it.

alot of ppl look at it and instantly assume its crap. ie uras a few pages back. but then those ppl make alot of absolute statements like "i can gaurantee a power increase 100% of the time with a properly setup EBC like a DSBC etc (i hate AVCR's they really show their age nowadays)..... over a turbotech bleed valve (actually any bleeder)"

which would indicate that they would be wrong about 100% of the time. agreed?

maybe in their experience, with the particular setups they've played with.......which does not equal 100% of anything.

rant...i know, but it gets on my nerves

Mate i been tuning cars for 10 years, the turbotech bleed vlave has been on countless of them as has just about every brand of boost controller.. be it ebc or manual type!

i will give a money back gaurantee to anyone if i cannot get an increase in power throughtout the midrange from using a properly setup EBC over any bleed valve that is on the market atm.

[TTT]

will the increase be worth the minimum $200 extra you'd pay for an ebc over the turbo tech valve?

[Gazee]

will the increase be worth the minimum $200 extra you'd pay for an ebc over the turbo tech valve?

there are other benefits which people like with the ebc over a manual one

[TTT]

fair enough.

I was refering to URAS's post about the increase in midrange over a bleed valve..

[Gazee]

fair enough.

I was refering to URAS's post about the increase in midrange over a bleed valve..

oh yep,

in that case yea i would pay an extra $200 for the added midrange (over a bleed valve, never driven a car with turbotech restricter type)

[Guilt-Toy]

i will have to agree with URAS about that. The turbo tech is just set to one setting and thats it. Where a properly controlled EBC will be able to give you the right amount of boost when you want it how you want it and how much of it you want.

The turbotech can spike on some cars and not on others it does have alot to do with the setup as well.

I will still stand by saying that the turbotech is a good controller for what it is and it is definatly worth a try. If it dont work for you then replace it with a expensive EBC.

I think we should go back to comparing the turbotech with other types of bleed valves and not compare it to a EBC because they are completly different. The fact that we are comparing a bleedervalve to a EBC must say alot for this particular product.

[Gazee]

by the looks of things, the turbotech should shit all over any other manual type

[Munkyb0y]

my point was that a turbotech is far from shit. its quite good, and if you had to rate it in terms of effectiveness, ease of use, and price, it would come on top.

if you're not concerned about price, there are other more expensive options for arguably better results. but this comes very very close ...for only $30!!!